Message from @C1PHER

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2019-06-21 03:58:36 UTC  

@Mandatory Carry alright so youre more intact than i am

2019-06-21 03:58:51 UTC  

I've got my bottom fleah

2019-06-21 03:58:59 UTC  

had all my front teeth smashed twice

2019-06-21 03:59:07 UTC  

No Mutilation Mandy's in this house

2019-06-21 03:59:13 UTC  

i have a damn good dentist

2019-06-21 03:59:30 UTC  

@TheCompanyMan lookin like an ant eater i see

2019-06-21 03:59:43 UTC  

@Big T😎

2019-06-21 04:00:10 UTC  

ive got just the pic for you

2019-06-21 04:00:19 UTC  

Post it

2019-06-21 04:00:24 UTC  

but first

2019-06-21 04:00:34 UTC  

I'm the Kolache King of Texas

2019-06-21 04:00:49 UTC  

πŸ†

2019-06-21 09:23:35 UTC  

looks busy here, mass debate is always a good thing

2019-06-21 09:24:21 UTC  

it requires a lot from within

2019-06-21 12:57:19 UTC  

When dealing with modern progressives, it is more the rule than the exception that the slippery slope argument is not a fallacy. EG: gay rights and the evolution of the lgbtqaaiplmnopqrstuvwxyz movement.

Change my mind.

2019-06-21 13:00:39 UTC  

Blonde has touched on it during the streams, but it seems like the entire right-to-left political shift is a slippery slope that gets forcibly reset every so often

2019-06-21 13:04:55 UTC  

I think that generally speaking, liberals or progressives are more likely to fall into the slope that conservatives.

It's kind of hard to argue a slippery slope against someone fighting to maintain the status quo in most cases.

2019-06-21 13:06:49 UTC  

If the "conservative" position is more restrictive than the status quo, then the slippery slope argument is that we'll get more and more restrictive

2019-06-21 13:08:43 UTC  

In a vacuum, I'm not sure I could argue against it, because the government is all too willing to take on more enforcement power at the same time that the left wants to remove all cultural stigmas.
It's super slippery downhill both ways in the snow

2019-06-21 13:11:56 UTC  

I guess at least I'm modern politics I haven't seen much from conservatives trying to re-enact restrictions. Rather the fight has just been a pushback to the "progress" liberals have been pushing.

2019-06-21 13:16:52 UTC  

They love their Handmaid's Tale references as of late.

2019-06-21 13:18:21 UTC  

I guess the problem with the modern progressives is that they keep putting human edge cases up on a pedestal, so there's a natural tendency for people to find more and more ways to be placed upon it

2019-06-21 13:19:16 UTC  

TBH I haven't even watched handmaid's tale.

Generally speaking, if you have to look to fiction for your representation of the results of your opponents arguments, you're probably bad at arguing.

2019-06-21 13:20:06 UTC  

Whereas if you state that the nuclear family is your societal paragon, it's hard to find ways to one-up that

2019-06-21 13:20:34 UTC  

What do you mean by one up that?

2019-06-21 13:24:05 UTC  

If your position is "X is bad, and you should do your best to deviate from it" people will always try to find new ways to deviate and get bonus points. Versus "X is good and you should do your best not to deviate" makes it such that you can't really get more X-er than X.
I hope that makes sense

2019-06-21 13:25:59 UTC  

Yeah. That's what I thought you were saying, just wanted to be sure

2019-06-21 13:45:11 UTC  

Now I'm not entirely sure that the progs have gone so far as to say that heterosexuals are bad, giving rise to the "LGBTQIAA+" mess, but the logic seems like it would match

2019-06-21 13:51:29 UTC  

I don't think they need to say heterosexuals are bad. They just need to say bad things are acceptable.

2019-06-21 13:51:44 UTC  

Pedophilia, supporting the likes of Desmond

2019-06-21 13:51:57 UTC  

Puberty blockers.

2019-06-21 13:52:20 UTC  

There will always be some new sexual deviation that they need to "liberate"

2019-06-21 14:04:13 UTC  

VIV LA LIBERTAD

2019-06-21 14:04:21 UTC  

🚁🚁🚁

2019-06-21 15:50:58 UTC  

@DJ_Anuz
*"When dealing with modern progressives, it is more the rule than the exception that the slippery slope argument is not a fallacy. ... Change my mind."*
I could *try,* but I'd have to start with the worst sin of all- I'd have to **LIE** to you, and worse I'd have to tell you a lie I already know you know is a lie.
@C1PHER
*"They love their Handmaid's Tale references as of late."*
¿Are they **STILL** on that shit argument? Take that worlds, replace *'Christian'* with *'Muslim,'* and you have at least a half-dozen real world countries ***RIGHT NOW.*** Not some hypothetical future, right now, today- Up to and including execution of lesbians (an otherwise historical outlier). 😠😀🀬😑

2019-06-21 15:52:03 UTC  

It's not so much the lie that pisses me off... It's the fact that they think we're too stupid to know it's a lie that does. 😀😑😠🀬🀬

2019-06-21 15:55:25 UTC  

I don't think they think it's untrue, thus it wouldn't be a lie

2019-06-21 15:55:47 UTC  

I think they've worked themselves into a frenzy over an ebil Christian patriarchy that won't happen

2019-06-21 16:04:36 UTC  

Willful ignorance of simply verifiable facts is also lying.
And that's not even the extremism... The extremism comes at **"When you don't verify a claim before presenting it as factual based on your supposed professional credentials, you're lying"* (coughcoughShannonWATTScough)...

2019-06-21 16:27:01 UTC  

We're talking about speculation. There aren't simple verifiable facts

2019-06-21 16:27:04 UTC  

Omission is no sin!