Message from @uncephalized

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2019-08-19 07:08:06 UTC  

ncephalizedToday at 5:07 PM
what the hell do you think I'm doing?

2019-08-19 07:08:19 UTC  

this implies doing something greater than "typing bullshit on social media"

2019-08-19 07:08:32 UTC  

"until that point, im working with the tools of the state" -- you 2 minutes ago

2019-08-19 07:08:33 UTC  

lol

2019-08-19 07:08:41 UTC  

unrelated

2019-08-19 07:08:42 UTC  

nice

2019-08-19 07:08:46 UTC  

hahahahaha

2019-08-19 07:09:16 UTC  

truly, you have a dizzying intellect

2019-08-19 07:09:34 UTC  

(do we have any Princess Bride emojis?)

2019-08-19 07:09:35 UTC  

yea for someone like you, with an IQ of 115, i bet it seems that way

2019-08-19 07:09:57 UTC  

theeeere it comes

2019-08-19 07:10:03 UTC  

/iamverysmart

2019-08-19 07:10:22 UTC  

when you try to insult my intellect, you realise you're implictly claiming that you have a higher intellect?

2019-08-19 07:10:32 UTC  

yes

2019-08-19 07:10:33 UTC  

*so you were the one who first flexed*

2019-08-19 07:10:42 UTC  

/iamverysmart

2019-08-19 07:10:52 UTC  

<:PepoThink:545123948833144833>

2019-08-19 07:11:03 UTC  

this is fun

2019-08-19 07:12:06 UTC  

you understand that was in specific reference to your very obvious lack of self awareness in a specific statement, whose parallel to the behavior you were calling out in me is entirely blatant?

2019-08-19 07:12:24 UTC  

so you are trying to justify /iamverysmart statements?

2019-08-19 07:12:26 UTC  

but I don't mind being a hypocrite if it's a chance to make a Princess Bride reference, anyway

2019-08-19 07:12:32 UTC  

that's always worthwhile

2019-08-19 07:13:14 UTC  

(ps there is no equivalence)

2019-08-19 07:13:24 UTC  

i love when people do that false equivalency thing

2019-08-19 07:13:34 UTC  

if you don't see it, you don't. That's fine.

2019-08-19 07:13:54 UTC  

no, i see what you tried to equivocate. you dont see the counterargument to why its not equivalent

2019-08-19 07:14:03 UTC  

and thats to be expected tbh

2019-08-19 07:14:47 UTC  

"I love it when people do the false equivalency thing" -guy who made comparison between the idea of natural rights and Mao's "great leap forward"

2019-08-19 07:18:06 UTC  

Ah, this has been entertaining but it is past bedtime. Gotta get up in the morning and do some real shit.

2019-08-19 07:18:13 UTC  

Green, you gonna finish that essay soon?

2019-08-19 07:18:57 UTC  

don't go over the 2000 char limit

2019-08-19 07:20:00 UTC  

natural rights are premises which have no legalistic recognition -> theyre abstract and arent enforced
mao's policies were *enforced* mechanisms *based on an abstract ideology*. i didnt make a comparison between these two, i said when you *enforce* ideologies without references to its consequences, you get terrible consequences. Natural rights need not ignore consequences -> you can draw up natural rights *based off consequences*,, but in the context of protected classes, *the right to discriminate against them* *will* have negative consequences, *as we have seen all throughout history*. that was the comparison i was making -> both mao and uncephalised ignored consequences in designing their "rights" . now, uncephalised has retracted that claim, so its *not equivalent*, but if he wanted to keep his claim in play, it would be the same method of thinking

2019-08-19 07:21:36 UTC  

uncephalized, you gonna finish that essay soon?
don't go over the 2000 char limit

2019-08-19 07:21:57 UTC  

1) I never said I ignored consequences, you said that about me, so it's unfair to say I retracted a claim I never made. 2) I'll reassert that accepting a consequence is not ignoring it, it's compromising.

2019-08-19 07:22:16 UTC  

you made a claim that a principle was more important than the consequences

2019-08-19 07:22:28 UTC  

then you retracted it in "clearing it up"

2019-08-19 07:22:58 UTC  

yes, I still believe that means are in general important. You applied a label, which I agree with in a half-hearted way because I feel it's too binary.

2019-08-19 07:23:22 UTC  

Anyway, nice to meet you, @Green Syndicalism

2019-08-19 07:23:25 UTC  

I need to sleep.

2019-08-19 07:23:29 UTC  

Good night, all.

2019-08-19 07:45:58 UTC  

Interesting discussion, but I have a couple of questions about the consequences: what is the criteria for a