Is there some proper order? Lol. It was just the order I thought of them in.

Im kiddin

Order of formation;
Coast Guard
Army
Navy
Marine Corps
Air Force

Most people forget the Army, Navy, and Marines were disbanded after the Revolution, so the Lighthouse Service and Revenue Cutter Service were formed first.

It seemed like a good idea at first, but then black women started getting rather sexy.

🤔

@pokemon_fetish You sure you arent shitfaced? You speak nonsense.

@Legalize "something something multiculturalism is bad"

@scaevola
I think he's provoking C. Kyle. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have to say, Pokés not bad at it...
Not sure if I should laugh or cry at that...

Someone was saying Odessa's motive was been kept quiet; ¿Anyone able to fill in the blank here? Fired from his job doesn't strike me as a motive for this.

@Mandatory Carry I was just saying why I don't support the separation of the races. Why does that make me shitfaced @scaevola ?

I mean, I was,\

@pokemon_fetish, I suspect you meant to tag @[DGI]tech.
Me, I like my girls a shade of brown...
That's just me though.

I've never raped a cooked woman's corpse, but I imagine it's similar to a Curling tournament for Alzheimer's patients when there's yesterday I swear we no um I remember

@Salacious Swanky Cat I'll throw a response at you before I go to bed. All you have cited to me at the moment is the limitations cited by the study itself which exists in all studies ever. All studies have limitations and they from what I have seen cite them. What we can derive as fact from the study is that there is a difference between sentencing that is statistically significant and we do not know why but this trait being missing and for some reason unfound has made the system look racists. If some have some study that finds this outlier or goes into more detail than this study (which was also based on 2 studies years before it coming to the same outcomes) then we can clear this up. But from this data there is a race difference in sentencing and we do not know why because this study is not enough for you personally as all studies have limits however it is plenty to me as I trust competency of research in this field as we have nothing else to go on, all you did was speculate and post the limitations cited by the study, of these they talk about employment and family as uncontrollable if these were to have an effect I'm sure we could agree in good faith that blacks would fair worse on average in these categories than whites, making me wonder why this would have the judge take more or less pity in the opposite direction (if not ignore this part).

Someone commented on our conversation about there being nothing in the document about past crime but the study states on page 20 "An offender’s past criminal violence is not a statistically significant predictor of the sentence imposed for a federal offense..." And as for judges discriminating no one citing this believes it is on the part of the judges but a flaw in the system that needs to be addressed but as for people on your side believe it doesn't exist or isn't a problem, which looking at the study you cannot do, it does exist and we don't know why because it is for none of the reasons controlled for in the study apparently, so what is it?

For anyone looking at this without context here: https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/research-publications/2017/20171114_Demographics.pdf

Employment and family are indicators of stability and overall suggest a higher investment in society. While women get sentenced far more lightly than men for the same crimes on average, the gap is made more extreme when you consider women with children esp. single mothers. It's at the point where some women will intentionally get pregnant and leverage that to avoid their full sentence.
Further, the implication that the gap makes the system racist is at least as speculative as naming other factors. You would need positive proof in that direction, or at least elimination of all other possibilities, to make an assertion to that end without it just boiling down to your opinion or a hunch

@Beemann I agree with you. That’s why I brought up additional relevant factors. I had already said that a racial disparity doesn’t automatically equal racism.

Alloy is basically saying the study is good enough for him because it conforms his presumption that the system is racist.

does it account for regional differenes, like one judge being a hardass, another not being one as much, frequency of crime in those regions, would be a factor as well, i would say. Its one thing to have to judge about violent crimes once a day, its another to do it several times a day, and that will have an effect on the harshness a judge will judge crimes by

I mean you're dealing with circumstantial sentencing across a variety of legal and social contexts. You're probably never going to account for *everything*

@Avald that would be looking at things at the district level. The study does imply that states were a factor, but I haven’t read it thoroughly enough to see how.

@Beemann that’s true that there are tons of different factors, but presenting a national aggregate number doesn’t actually prove anything at this point. At least pointing out any individual districts that had any major disparity in sentencing would at least give a direction on where a more in-depth investigation could occur.

That's kind of my point

We’re agreeing. Yes! Lol

Would also suggest that if you did find a "racist district", and I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few with biased judges, that's still not reflective of the nation or the justice system as a whole

Right. A 2-3 districts isn’t the whole. I actually think there probably are 2 or 3 districts with possibly racist judges

Beeman, y u no auto agree with yo fellow canuk ?

Who?

Fondest

is Canadian, aren't you canadian

Oh, didn't realize he was. Doesn't really change my position. I disagree with many of my fellow countrymen
And yeah, west coast

Does BC want to join the USA?

"Alaska but prettier"

I think we almost did at one point, but no

"California but cold"

LOL

thta's WA state

We're the same climate as n. Washington in s. BC

I'm quite familar with WA