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Slay!

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I would just abandon the term, as it's politically charged while having no utility outside of that context

Okay.

Legalize is a dirty dirty smearmerchant.

Ban this Mod.

I still question the utility of "left" and "right" tbh

Damn straight!

That's essentially the extent of it. To those that identify as left, right just means things they dont agree with, and vice versa

It's just Communism v.s Facism all over again.

Bring on 2020!

What.

Well communism and fascism are actually real easy to delineate. I assume you mean socialism though, which is still somewhat different if very similar

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Quite likely the former.

I think it might be easiest to split socialism and fascism by the goal of the state, but even then people would argue otherwise

Because there are "socialists" who dont want communism

And it's also sort of a hindsight designation

I think it might be because fascism is a purely political designation while socialism is an economic one, really

Socialism is a misguided pathway, regardless. But, yes, terminology does get muddy.

Maybe @Mandatory Carry can explain it.

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Socialism is such a broad term nowadays it's almost lost its meaning

Prolly

Yes.

As if it helps.

Socialism is easiest to understand as a transitionary state into communist utopia that never seems to make it beyond transitioning

Marxism explicitly identifies Socialism as the transitional form between capitalism and communism.

Funny that

Ah @Beemann beat me to it.

Indeed.

But socialist tendances are found in facists as much as communists

Let the segue begin!

Yes, because fascists employ socialist economic theories as well as more market driven ones

The goal of fascism is the preservation of the state

Wherein all component parts exist in service of the greater whole

Facists are therefore less dogmatic in their application of tyranny

I thought the goal of fascism was beating people with bundles of sticks?

@A. Spader both are authoritarian systems and imo the biggest difference is nationalism vs internationalism.