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2019-09-10 04:01:47 UTC  

@uncephalized I get what you are going for with the bit about getting one vote for each dependent, but I don't know how much I like it. Aside from that, I've wanted a system like that for a while.

2019-09-10 04:01:53 UTC  

Apocalypse world is lit.

2019-09-10 04:02:19 UTC  

@uncephalized one vote per half acre.

2019-09-10 04:02:23 UTC  

@uncephalized interesting, but I dunno about the dependents thing

2019-09-10 04:02:36 UTC  

The idea is to give the most weight to those who are taking on the most responsibility for others/having children they can actually pay for.

2019-09-10 04:02:38 UTC  

Restriction to net taxpayers only is more palatable to me

2019-09-10 04:03:10 UTC  

Because... I mean, what's a "dependent" ?

2019-09-10 04:03:16 UTC  

I've heard a lot of good about Apocalypse World, but I'm not sure how I feel about the narrative focus, from what little I've seen, it seems to make a weird abstraction between what you are doing and what you are rolling.

2019-09-10 04:03:20 UTC  

For the purposes of this and any other law?

2019-09-10 04:03:28 UTC  

The definition used on taxes is fine.

2019-09-10 04:04:00 UTC  

I think that's a bit different from there to here, though...

2019-09-10 04:04:06 UTC  

What would your definition be, mate?

2019-09-10 04:05:13 UTC  

There's a whole list of tests the IRS uses to determine who can be declared a dependent, I can't just reel them off.

2019-09-10 04:05:41 UTC  

Nah, I'm not asking you to do _that_, I'm asking for what _you_ think should be the definition of dependent

2019-09-10 04:05:48 UTC  

But basically it's a child or family member for whom you provide economic essentials out of your own income.

2019-09-10 04:05:52 UTC  

Because it's the same down here, and I'm willing to bet a lot of those are different

2019-09-10 04:06:04 UTC  

@wolfman1911 it does. Ironically my first DnD game was on my mission, and it was Apocalypse world with my Apos district leader.

I guess the thing I love about apocalypse world, and the 2d6 model is that the game not only progresses faster, since every roll is pretty simple, but how you do things tend to make a big difference.

I guess I would say regular dnd is like a turn based strategy, whereas apocalypse powered games are more like a first person shooter.

2019-09-10 04:06:05 UTC  

So can your wife be a dependent?

2019-09-10 04:06:25 UTC  

That's the part I'm trying to work out. It's much clearer for children.

2019-09-10 04:06:29 UTC  

Mine would be xD

2019-09-10 04:06:33 UTC  

Yeah, children is easy

2019-09-10 04:06:36 UTC  

But let's say...

2019-09-10 04:07:01 UTC  

I'm halfway with Blonde on the whole 'repeal the 19th' thing though lol

2019-09-10 04:07:03 UTC  

A lot of millennials nowadays still live with their parents, but are not dependent on them for survival

2019-09-10 04:07:15 UTC  

Would they count as dependents and therefore be unable to vote?

2019-09-10 04:07:35 UTC  

if they pay their own taxes then they're not dependents

2019-09-10 04:07:41 UTC  

A lot are dependent though. And we already have laws identifying what a dependent is for tax purposes.

2019-09-10 04:07:50 UTC  

And it works pretty well. Just use the same definitions

2019-09-10 04:07:55 UTC  

exactly DJ

2019-09-10 04:08:01 UTC  

This is especially interesting to me because this is typically the case with Asian families, who stay with their parents until they get married

2019-09-10 04:08:13 UTC  

That's wack.

2019-09-10 04:08:23 UTC  

yeah I don't have any problem with who lives under whose roof, it's more about whether they are pulling weight as taxpayers

2019-09-10 04:08:31 UTC  

Truf.

2019-09-10 04:08:32 UTC  

Why is it wack DGI ?

2019-09-10 04:08:51 UTC  

@[DGI]tech the west did something similar for the longest time.

2019-09-10 04:08:54 UTC  

I'm not trying to push any particular living arrangement, I actually really like the extended-family thing

2019-09-10 04:08:55 UTC  

^

2019-09-10 04:09:00 UTC  

Only it was for the wealthy.

2019-09-10 04:09:06 UTC  

For the most part

2019-09-10 04:09:16 UTC  

I lived with my Mom until 21. I left after graduating college, and due to a few other circumstances.

2019-09-10 04:09:22 UTC  

@Legalize did you read my proposal above?