Message from @Fondboy

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2019-09-18 03:58:52 UTC  

Nuclear bombs are like putting giant beware of dog signs on the country

2019-09-18 03:59:07 UTC  

They are meant to be a deterrent.

2019-09-18 03:59:13 UTC  

plus we've suspected for 30 years the Israelis have nukes

2019-09-18 03:59:14 UTC  

Iran only seeks nukes for sovereignty and the power to ensure they don't get fucked in trade wars.

2019-09-18 03:59:25 UTC  

And I’d argue that it works.

2019-09-18 04:00:06 UTC  

for the record I don;t think the deal was all fox news made it out to be but it wasn;t a magic bullet ether

2019-09-18 04:00:06 UTC  

Kept the US and Soviets from engaging directly in war.

2019-09-18 04:01:30 UTC  

I think it’s an entirely overrated issue.

2019-09-18 04:01:43 UTC  

agreed

2019-09-18 04:01:50 UTC  

Even though I think foreign policy is the hardest topic

2019-09-18 04:01:53 UTC  

Lol

2019-09-18 04:02:43 UTC  

Ok. Bedtime

2019-09-18 04:03:05 UTC  

it was a medoiore deal from a presidency who's foreign policy was pretty mediocre too

2019-09-18 04:03:33 UTC  

not awful, not great

2019-09-18 04:04:28 UTC  

Tulsi for national security advisor after DNC cheats her out of her candidacy

2019-09-18 04:04:46 UTC  

why

2019-09-18 04:05:15 UTC  

she'll just get overruled by the "but daddy" wing of the Trump presidency on every important decision

2019-09-18 04:05:20 UTC  

even if Israel has nukes they wouldn't use them they have so much support from people they would lose a lot if they did

2019-09-18 04:05:44 UTC  

idk

2019-09-18 04:06:28 UTC  

I think most of the same people who hate Israel would wake up still hating Israel and most of the people who defend Israel would wake up and figure a way to defend Israel

2019-09-18 04:06:52 UTC  

yes but at least one side would be wrong at that point

2019-09-18 04:07:00 UTC  

or more clearly wrong I guess

2019-09-18 04:07:04 UTC  

Nuking a country that was gonna nuke you doesn't seem like it's gonna lose anyone you already had in your camp

2019-09-18 04:07:15 UTC  

mmmm

2019-09-18 04:07:21 UTC  

you'd have to prove they were going to nuke you

2019-09-18 04:07:33 UTC  

idk

2019-09-18 04:07:41 UTC  

prove to who?

2019-09-18 04:07:44 UTC  

the UN?

2019-09-18 04:08:48 UTC  

the body that spends equal time condemning israel and the rest of the world?

2019-09-18 04:09:11 UTC  

public opinion I guess

2019-09-18 04:09:26 UTC  

no I think reasonable suspision is all they;d need to satasfy their allies

2019-09-18 04:10:27 UTC  

I'm not saying that's good but by and large with Israel the enemy and ally camps are already so firmly entrenched I doubt them nuking Iran makes much of a difference

2019-09-18 04:20:33 UTC  

Just keep in mind: Iran's been in a state of war with the US since 1979

2019-09-18 04:20:49 UTC  

should have turned the place into a glass carpark years ago

2019-09-18 04:21:18 UTC  

Making the case that Iran was going to nuke them first gets pretty easy when you look at all the rhetoric from Iran about wiping Israel off the map.

2019-09-18 04:21:30 UTC  

This may just be me

2019-09-18 04:21:46 UTC  

but when I was going through basic, one of the first things you get told is

2019-09-18 04:22:03 UTC  

if the guy looking to kill you repetitively says he's gonna kill you, it's better if you believe him

2019-09-18 04:23:42 UTC  

the best middle east foreign policy is to say "do whatever the fuck you want to each other, we don't care, unless you screw with us in which case we will wipe you off the face of the earth"

2019-09-18 04:25:04 UTC  

but alas that hasn't been true of us foreign policy since the 1800s

2019-09-18 04:26:44 UTC  

She would probably get overruled less than Bolton did. Time for Trump to live up to his anti war retoric