Message from @Fondboy

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2019-09-25 03:35:37 UTC  

no because if you send guns into north korea who gets the guns?

2019-09-25 03:35:48 UTC  

International law is one of the most useless things anyone could have ever come up with

2019-09-25 03:35:59 UTC  

It might have made sense in the Westphalian context

2019-09-25 03:36:30 UTC  

But trying to apply it globally, to a multitude of cultures who sometimes don't even want to recognise the existence of civil law, is a fool's errand

2019-09-25 03:37:05 UTC  

Sovereign nations are where the buck stops as regards rule of law IMO. Global law will be for the day when we are a multi-planet species, or we encounter an alien civilization and require that level of organization to compete.

2019-09-25 03:37:40 UTC  

Until then it's counterproductive to evolution and doomed to break into factions.

2019-09-25 03:37:53 UTC  

the question isn't about your thoughts on international law

2019-09-25 03:38:00 UTC  

if the USA follows the bill would you care

2019-09-25 03:38:00 UTC  

It *wasn't*

2019-09-25 03:38:25 UTC  

and what would your argument be for selling guns to places where the government would use them for war crimes

2019-09-25 03:38:32 UTC  

It wouldn't keep me up at night, but I oppose the US getting itself into any more sweeping treaty obligations

2019-09-25 03:38:44 UTC  

how is this different like I said before than a bad guy buying a gun

2019-09-25 03:39:03 UTC  

Unless we're talking maritime law international law is a globalist ploy to destroy national sovereignty

2019-09-25 03:39:16 UTC  

My hot take for tonight

2019-09-25 03:39:26 UTC  

I didn't say we *should* sell guns to corrupt states or terrorist groups. I just don't think we should make ourselves accountable to an international treaty organization over it @Fondboy

2019-09-25 03:39:43 UTC  

two different things

2019-09-25 03:39:48 UTC  

then make it just a US law

2019-09-25 03:39:54 UTC  

that would be acceptable

2019-09-25 03:40:09 UTC  

@A. Spader why do you think there needs to be a boarder between the USA and Canada?

2019-09-25 03:40:22 UTC  

ok Uncephalized

2019-09-25 03:40:24 UTC  

🙂

2019-09-25 03:40:56 UTC  

I'd still have to look at the specifics of any given bill of course FondBoy

2019-09-25 03:41:17 UTC  

Us law already heavily regulates export of small arms and small arms components under ITAR

2019-09-25 03:41:32 UTC  

true im going off its basics 'dont sell guns to shitty states'

2019-09-25 03:42:07 UTC  

when did I say we need a border between us and knuckistan @Fondboy ?

2019-09-25 03:42:21 UTC  

um, there already is one...

2019-09-25 03:42:33 UTC  

unless the US conquered Canada while I wasn't looking....

2019-09-25 03:42:50 UTC  

I'm just wondering cause you said you thought globalism is a ploy to destroy national sovereignty

2019-09-25 03:43:09 UTC  

for the record I agree with that Spader

2019-09-25 03:43:28 UTC  

No I said international (not maritime, that makes sense) law was a globalist ploy

2019-09-25 03:43:37 UTC  

yea and I want to know why you guys think there must be a boarder between Canada and America

2019-09-25 03:43:49 UTC  

Globalism itself is a movement seeking power like any other

2019-09-25 03:44:02 UTC  

?????????????????????

2019-09-25 03:44:03 UTC  

ok

2019-09-25 03:44:06 UTC  

because they are separate sovereign nations with independent citizenries and governments

2019-09-25 03:44:12 UTC  

I don't see a need for one particularly

2019-09-25 03:44:30 UTC  

you don't think we need a border @A. Spader ?

2019-09-25 03:44:37 UTC  

That's different from having a right to enforce one.

2019-09-25 03:44:52 UTC  

I just see nothing in Canada I'm all that worried about

2019-09-25 03:45:16 UTC  

why can't people just walk over the boarders like states? Different laws would be the only thing to worry about

2019-09-25 03:45:23 UTC  

I'm not talking about a militarized border, just a legal line that says "this is USA" and "this is Canada"