Message from @Louis Carlos Fer

Discord ID: 628729063640530945


2019-10-01 22:47:30 UTC  

The way I see it, a miscarriage isn't an issue

2019-10-01 22:47:49 UTC  

The morning after pill sterilizes a fertalized egg.

2019-10-01 22:47:51 UTC  

If the zygote is induced to not attach to the uteral wall it isn't an abortion

2019-10-01 22:48:06 UTC  

You're still killing a distinct human life.

2019-10-01 22:48:16 UTC  

Fertilization is the beginning of human life, gonna have to side with DJ on this one

2019-10-01 22:48:23 UTC  

i vote DJ

2019-10-01 22:48:25 UTC  

That's fair

2019-10-01 22:48:51 UTC  

I just see the morning after pill as doesn't quite qualify, seeing as it more induces a miscarriage than an outright abortion

2019-10-01 22:48:58 UTC  

Unless I'm totally wrong on how they work

2019-10-01 22:49:42 UTC  

well it's still killing them

2019-10-01 22:49:43 UTC  

It prevents a necessary step from taking place, rather than outright halting the whole process, right?

2019-10-01 22:49:43 UTC  

?

2019-10-01 22:49:58 UTC  

It would be like leaving an infant in a desert.

2019-10-01 22:50:06 UTC  

Sure, you didn't kill the baby.

2019-10-01 22:50:07 UTC  

It could easily be argued that an abortion is simply forcing a miscarriage later in the term

2019-10-01 22:50:11 UTC  

But you let it die.

2019-10-01 22:50:14 UTC  

yea i was gonna say its like preventing someone from eating

2019-10-01 23:01:08 UTC  

@C1PHER Sorry late to the convo.
To answer your question about rape pregnancy:
The baby never chose to be the result of a rape; therefore shouldnt have to pay with its life for a crime it never asked to be the result of.
Execute the rapist.

2019-10-01 23:02:19 UTC  

in all scenarios execute the rapist

2019-10-01 23:04:48 UTC  

^

2019-10-01 23:04:49 UTC  

Solidly that

2019-10-01 23:04:53 UTC  

Additionally, if women actually took the proper procedures to report the rape immediatly after it occured instead of waiting several days/weeks/months/years, they wouldve been provided with Plan B to prevent the pregnancy and STD testing (this is standard procedure according to the Violence Against Womens Act, short VAWA) ontop of having a chance to get the rapist actually answering for their crime while there's actual evidence to be collected

2019-10-01 23:05:58 UTC  

@pussydestroyer but plan B is basically the same morally as an abortion.

2019-10-01 23:06:42 UTC  

@DJ_Anuz is it though? You dont know if the egg has been fertilized or not

2019-10-01 23:06:55 UTC  

^ you definitely don't

2019-10-01 23:07:10 UTC  

but apparently to some people it's still not the same morally even if it is fertilized

2019-10-01 23:07:28 UTC  

Plan b doesn't prevent the egg from being fertalized though.

2019-10-01 23:07:54 UTC  

It prevents a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus.

2019-10-01 23:07:59 UTC  

It prevents the egg from attaching to the uterine wall

2019-10-01 23:08:06 UTC  

You're right

2019-10-01 23:08:48 UTC  

But that still leaves the question whether you know if the egg has been fertilized or not

2019-10-01 23:08:52 UTC  

So you're essentially starving a fertilized, distinct human, to death.

2019-10-01 23:09:03 UTC  

Potentially

2019-10-01 23:09:05 UTC  

If the egg hasn't been fertalized then she wouldn't get pregnant.

2019-10-01 23:09:12 UTC  

y not

2019-10-01 23:09:22 UTC  

Uhh...

2019-10-01 23:09:33 UTC  

I mean. Eggs don't fertilize themselves?

2019-10-01 23:09:46 UTC  

if i cum in some chick then she takes the plan b

2019-10-01 23:09:49 UTC  

1 minute later

2019-10-01 23:09:54 UTC  

it's not fertilized

2019-10-01 23:09:57 UTC  

? right