i'd be for that

lol

I would be on board for that.

100%

In fact, I'm pretty sure I've advocated for that before.

LOL

it sounds great

@Louis Carlos Fer the govt can't prevent murder if it involves violating the civil liberties of a citizen, otherwise red flag laws would be the norm.

And just like that, <#586033832277442590> became #agreement.

Lol

Bringing people together

After all, if preventing murder trump's all other civil liberties, then the govt can violate those liberties under the assumption it's protecting life.

No, that's completely different. You're talking about taking action against people who might commit murder

i feel like that's pretty different

I'm saying the government ought to make actually murdering prenatal infants illegal

Your civil liberties don't include a convenient, easy life. They do include not being killed

But what if keeping a prenatal infant violates the liberty of a woman?

And if you're really going to be consistent, then you also need to advocate banning the morning after pill.

Why?

It doesn't, DJ. And yeah sure, ban abortion pills

The way I see it, a miscarriage isn't an issue

The morning after pill sterilizes a fertalized egg.

If the zygote is induced to not attach to the uteral wall it isn't an abortion

You're still killing a distinct human life.

Fertilization is the beginning of human life, gonna have to side with DJ on this one

i vote DJ

That's fair

I just see the morning after pill as doesn't quite qualify, seeing as it more induces a miscarriage than an outright abortion

Unless I'm totally wrong on how they work

well it's still killing them

It prevents a necessary step from taking place, rather than outright halting the whole process, right?

?

It would be like leaving an infant in a desert.

Sure, you didn't kill the baby.

It could easily be argued that an abortion is simply forcing a miscarriage later in the term

But you let it die.

yea i was gonna say its like preventing someone from eating

@C1PHER Sorry late to the convo.
To answer your question about rape pregnancy:
The baby never chose to be the result of a rape; therefore shouldnt have to pay with its life for a crime it never asked to be the result of.
Execute the rapist.

in all scenarios execute the rapist

^

Solidly that

Additionally, if women actually took the proper procedures to report the rape immediatly after it occured instead of waiting several days/weeks/months/years, they wouldve been provided with Plan B to prevent the pregnancy and STD testing (this is standard procedure according to the Violence Against Womens Act, short VAWA) ontop of having a chance to get the rapist actually answering for their crime while there's actual evidence to be collected