Message from @Louis Carlos Fer

Discord ID: 631262059681546243


2019-10-08 22:47:13 UTC  

but one of faith

2019-10-08 22:47:19 UTC  

Rather than a claim of a single instance from thousands of years ago filtered through translation? Yes

2019-10-08 22:47:34 UTC  

Everyone makes such claims. How does one weigh one against another?

2019-10-08 22:47:44 UTC  

If you read again the scrools you will see there is a message on there

2019-10-08 22:47:48 UTC  

Faith is regularly misused by Christian's like it's something unique towards belief in God.

2019-10-08 22:47:55 UTC  

It requires faith to do literally anything.

2019-10-08 22:48:16 UTC  

You typing out messages in discord is an act of faith that the computers will deliver your messages to all of us.

2019-10-08 22:48:20 UTC  

Once we get into faith the argument is pretty much shot

2019-10-08 22:48:30 UTC  

You can easily put your faith in things that will let you down.

2019-10-08 22:48:35 UTC  

Because it's equal footing with any other claim that cannot be easily disproven

2019-10-08 22:48:43 UTC  

Well, that's kind of part of religion

2019-10-08 22:48:45 UTC  

Faith, that is

2019-10-08 22:48:48 UTC  

Like I can have faith that I can fly.

2019-10-08 22:48:58 UTC  

That doesn't mean I won't break a leg jumping off my roof.

2019-10-08 22:49:07 UTC  

Sure, but we're talking about evidence-based claims here

2019-10-08 22:49:25 UTC  

If we go wholly on faith, why not Islam? Why not Hinduism? Zoroastrianism?

2019-10-08 22:49:28 UTC  

Yeah. And belonging to a community is like jumping of a roof

2019-10-08 22:49:44 UTC  

We are not saying to go and explode

2019-10-08 22:49:57 UTC  

Neither are the Hindus

2019-10-08 22:49:58 UTC  

Well, if you look at western judeo-christian nations

2019-10-08 22:50:03 UTC  

We have, you know, running water

2019-10-08 22:50:09 UTC  

and uhhhh don't stone people for eating cows

2019-10-08 22:50:20 UTC  

Running water = right faith?

2019-10-08 22:50:20 UTC  

and don't throw our kids into manure piles for shits

2019-10-08 22:50:41 UTC  

No, but clearly it's our judeo-christian backing, which nobody else had, which led to our current cultures

2019-10-08 22:50:48 UTC  

So if Muslims were the developed world does that make Allah the real God?

2019-10-08 22:50:54 UTC  

Well, yes

2019-10-08 22:51:21 UTC  

If stoning gays and murdering everyone who dissented on your wholly holy book was the answer, muslims would be the superpower

2019-10-08 22:51:30 UTC  

So if China becomes the next world power, time to ditch Christ?

2019-10-08 22:51:48 UTC  

No, look at how the average chinese person lives compared to us

2019-10-08 22:51:51 UTC  

Even if they unseat us

2019-10-08 22:52:05 UTC  

You won't live very well if China takes over

2019-10-08 22:52:25 UTC  

I doubt that the average chinese will suddenly get a comfortable life, running water, and an understanding that you can't pressure boil evil spirits out of your friends

2019-10-08 22:52:31 UTC  

But there's a section of people close to the party that will

2019-10-08 22:52:32 UTC  

if they took over

2019-10-08 22:52:37 UTC  

Clearly they've for the right answer

2019-10-08 22:52:58 UTC  

Might makes right. Right?

2019-10-08 22:53:02 UTC  

I am really disappointed with the agnostic/atheist faction in here if the argument I did is boiled down to there is no VHS that provesthat I am right.

2019-10-08 22:53:10 UTC  

See, it's basically a difference in opinion at this point

2019-10-08 22:53:29 UTC  

>take example
>assume it's the only answer
I thought we were about good faith here :^)

2019-10-08 22:53:35 UTC  

I think that all people having a better life is better than millions starving and some having a better life for whatever duration the CCP manages to stay together