I pretty much said everything I needed to.

What's funny, this is the first I've seen of them in a long time.

When they first blew up last winter, YT tried like hell to suggest them to me. I kept disliking and downvoting the videos until the algorithm finally figured it out.

But, because I searched for them once today, all the work has gone right out the window. lol

This live stream has been a clusterfuck

I think the only video I've ever seen of them was them bitching about Owen Benjamin and how they were invited onto his platform and didn't want it because they are better than that. I didn't mind because I think Owen is batshit crazy and ought to be taken down a peg, but if that's all they do, I can see the problem.

Kudos to Matt for trying, though. You can't argue with people who can't debate.

I really hope that he gives a recap of it on the show either today or sunday.

TBH my distaste for Owen Benjamin is why I first gave them a try. I thought the way Owen turned on Rogan, and Petersen, and pretty much everyone else, then started getting all buddy buddy with Vox Day, was epically shitty. He deserved a good trolling. Then I heard Royce start calling Crowder a LARPer, and Shapiro a Jew shill, and the rest is history.

Like I have 0 interest in either side of the israel thing, my thing is we should just leave the middle east in its entirety, if they want to blow each other up that should be none of our business

I'm not familiar enough with Rogan to know what you mean about that, but yeah, I do remember people asking Crowder why he didn't have Owen back when he came back from his hiatus, until Crowder finally explained that it was because Owen stopped taking his calls for no apparent reason.

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Nucleon knows what up

bringbackisolationism

The whole problem I have with all the anti jew stuff is I don't see what the point is. Even if all the accusations were true, it's not like anyone is ever going to convince me that jews are worse than muslims, so it doesn't really matter.

And yeah, if you want to tell me that we should stop giving money to Israel I can't argue too hard with that, I think we ought to stop giving money to a whole bunch of places.

~~like, they showed they were quite capable of handling the middle east in the 6 days war~~

so how was the shitshow that was the debate with ROC?

asking for a friend

havent watched it yet

Its just a bunch of he said she said. ROC talks in circles

I watched some of it, very circular arguing

So, IMO, the two people most directly responsible for Owen Benjamin's career resurgence that took place over the last few years are Joe Rogan and Steven Crowder. Before I ever saw OB on Crowder's show, I heard Rogan talk about him on his Podcast. Rogan would describe OB as "one of the most underrated comics in the game right now." Then Rogan had him on his Podcast, and from then on, OB was able to do comedy full time again. Up to that point, OB's career had kind of dried up, and he had to work with his brother cutting down trees. Before all this OB was most famous for dating Cristina Ricci back in the early oughts.

After Rogan's podcast, I started seeing him on Crowder's show, then I started seeing his tour dates pop up. And boom everything was coming up Owen Benjamin. Then, he lost his fucking mind, called Rogan a thumb, Petersen a Wizard, and said Vox Day was an intellectual that he greatly respected...

Same, I would have never heard of him if not for Crowder.

To be fair...

What do you think the ratio is of people that watch him because they think he's right versus the number that watch because they think it's an entertaining shitshow?

He never threw Crowder under the bus.

I mean

other than calling him gay

I don't remember specifics, but I do remember him saying some shit.

I've seen a few clips from his streams where the Bears would try to get him to talk shit about Crowder, and OB would defend him. Say that if it wasn't for Crowder, he'd have never regained his faith in God, and all kinds of shit.

I did see one clip where Owen was fake laughing (looked to me like he was going to cry) about how Crowder broke up with him over his Flat Earth nonsense.

May be the same video you gusy are refering to.

As to the your question before Wolfman, I don't know. I would love to see that Venn Diagram though.

People who are actual Bears/People that watch Owen Benjamin/People that love a good shitshow

I liked the music, and the family talk, but I jumped ship after the conspiracy theories started up.

What, you don't think the Earth is flat?

Man, I'm tired of this flat earth. Everyone knows its triangle shape

kind of like a floating pyramid

It's windmill of friendship shaped.

@Unironic Ohio Supremecist gets it