Message from @Jolly Rovin' Tar
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Either do it as soon as possible or delay until Germany is sane again.
if the "red-red-green" coalition of the three most leftist parties (that actually matter) in Germany wins in september, Europe is doomed for the next four years
I graduate in December so I think it will have to stay a thought for now
and the AFD doesn't help the cause, because they are not willing to form a coalition with anyone.
at this point and in this kind of a democratic system, they do more harm than good. and they would be better off infiltrating Merkel's CDU
So what right-wing party (or parties) are there that stand a chance of causing real change?
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there is no real right-wing party in Germany and there unfortunately won't be for the next decades. the best way to support right-wing positions depends on how much libertarianism/authoritarianism you want with it
the more libertarian way would be the right wing of the Free Democrats, where I currently am and hope to stay.
the more authoritarian way, again, would be to infiltrate the CDU and try to get them to what they once were - an actual conservative party
the AFD as the idea of a "Die Linke" on the right will not work. "Die Linke" keeps on crossing the line to left-wing extremism just as the AFD keeps on crossing the line to right-wing extremism. But our history makes us be tougher on right-wing extremism due to our history.
Its just hard for me to imagine that there is still that much guilt over a period of time
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Especially given the overall attitudes towards Germany around europe pre and post WWI
no one remembers that in Germany
we are all reminded of those horrible twelve years, though. day in, day out. I think, a little less (just a little less) remembrance would be great, and more remembrance of what Germany achieved. Talking about historical figures like Goethe, Schiller, all those German writers. German composers. German scientists. We got so much.
Maybe less remembrance can happen as the generations change. I mean, to some extent the war is still living memory for some.
So forgive me if I overstep, but things like the franco-prussian war, the stuggle for Alise-Loraine .
Those aren't proud moments for most?
Yes, but the last ones that actually lived are on the verge of no longer living, to put it mildly. maybe this is a chance. but then again, we got the leftist elites in Germany...
Wars never have been proud moments for Germans. Never. Even the ones we won.
There's a reason why DJT has to remind us Germans constantly that we need to put money into our own defense.
Maybe thats just the 'merican in me but that just seems unfortunate in the truest sense of the word
it is
we take more pride in things that happened in Germany. The fall of the wall in 1989, for example
or the rebellion against the GDR in 1953. when people stood up against the socialist regime
and those are great moments
yes, definitely. every time an authoritarian regime is fought, it is a great moment. even when people are brutally batted down by said regime like it happened in 1953
-The bummer train
what?
It was just a dark note, hard to respond to
I will say though, every German I have met has been quite the well mannered person, I do believe some hope lies in that
America has a unique history and position in history. I think in general Americans have a hard time understanding other countries and they have a somewhat hard time understanding us.
Yeah
good manners don't say nothing about political views, though. we got an awful lot of social democrats here
True enough
The ones I knew have now blocked me on social media after our past election
yup. Germans. Free speech is a rather new concept for us...
something most of us are not really familiar and comfortable with
That is unfortunate