How do you think Germany could un-Merkel itself, and return to a more nationalist platform. (And by nationalist I don't mean Neo-Nazi, of course)

((Imperial Second Reich))

but with the UK leaving and other countries forming alliances (Czech, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland), I feel the EU will fall and other alliances will be formed.

I honestly feel blocks such as that would be more beneficial

I am just of the point of view that a nation should care for its citizens, and put them first, and it seems to me that Merkel and others like her keep putting the native population second.

At this point, Germany can't un-Merkel itself. She must go. And her opponent at the upcoming election in September, Martin Schulz, is even more on the left than her.

Fuck

and there are just two realistic outcomes this september: Merkel staying in power or Schulz becoming new chancellor of a socialdemocrat-green-socialist coalition

I've always wanted to make the journey over but I wouldn't be able to keep my mouth shut about a lot of things

And my grammar is also attrocious

Either do it as soon as possible or delay until Germany is sane again.

if the "red-red-green" coalition of the three most leftist parties (that actually matter) in Germany wins in september, Europe is doomed for the next four years

I graduate in December so I think it will have to stay a thought for now

and the AFD doesn't help the cause, because they are not willing to form a coalition with anyone.

at this point and in this kind of a democratic system, they do more harm than good. and they would be better off infiltrating Merkel's CDU

So what right-wing party (or parties) are there that stand a chance of causing real change?

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there is no real right-wing party in Germany and there unfortunately won't be for the next decades. the best way to support right-wing positions depends on how much libertarianism/authoritarianism you want with it

the more libertarian way would be the right wing of the Free Democrats, where I currently am and hope to stay.

the more authoritarian way, again, would be to infiltrate the CDU and try to get them to what they once were - an actual conservative party

the AFD as the idea of a "Die Linke" on the right will not work. "Die Linke" keeps on crossing the line to left-wing extremism just as the AFD keeps on crossing the line to right-wing extremism. But our history makes us be tougher on right-wing extremism due to our history.

Its just hard for me to imagine that there is still that much guilt over a period of time

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Especially given the overall attitudes towards Germany around europe pre and post WWI

no one remembers that in Germany

we are all reminded of those horrible twelve years, though. day in, day out. I think, a little less (just a little less) remembrance would be great, and more remembrance of what Germany achieved. Talking about historical figures like Goethe, Schiller, all those German writers. German composers. German scientists. We got so much.

Maybe less remembrance can happen as the generations change. I mean, to some extent the war is still living memory for some.

So forgive me if I overstep, but things like the franco-prussian war, the stuggle for Alise-Loraine .

Those aren't proud moments for most?

Yes, but the last ones that actually lived are on the verge of no longer living, to put it mildly. maybe this is a chance. but then again, we got the leftist elites in Germany...

and Frederick the great as well

Wars never have been proud moments for Germans. Never. Even the ones we won.

There's a reason why DJT has to remind us Germans constantly that we need to put money into our own defense.

Maybe thats just the 'merican in me but that just seems unfortunate in the truest sense of the word

it is

we take more pride in things that happened in Germany. The fall of the wall in 1989, for example

or the rebellion against the GDR in 1953. when people stood up against the socialist regime

and those are great moments

yes, definitely. every time an authoritarian regime is fought, it is a great moment. even when people are brutally batted down by said regime like it happened in 1953

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what?