Those aren't proud moments for most?

Yes, but the last ones that actually lived are on the verge of no longer living, to put it mildly. maybe this is a chance. but then again, we got the leftist elites in Germany...

and Frederick the great as well

Wars never have been proud moments for Germans. Never. Even the ones we won.

There's a reason why DJT has to remind us Germans constantly that we need to put money into our own defense.

Maybe thats just the 'merican in me but that just seems unfortunate in the truest sense of the word

it is

we take more pride in things that happened in Germany. The fall of the wall in 1989, for example

or the rebellion against the GDR in 1953. when people stood up against the socialist regime

and those are great moments

yes, definitely. every time an authoritarian regime is fought, it is a great moment. even when people are brutally batted down by said regime like it happened in 1953

-The bummer train

what?

It was just a dark note, hard to respond to

I will say though, every German I have met has been quite the well mannered person, I do believe some hope lies in that

America has a unique history and position in history. I think in general Americans have a hard time understanding other countries and they have a somewhat hard time understanding us.

Yeah

good manners don't say nothing about political views, though. we got an awful lot of social democrats here

True enough

The ones I knew have now blocked me on social media after our past election

yup. Germans. Free speech is a rather new concept for us...

something most of us are not really familiar and comfortable with

That is unfortunate

Funny enough the differences in other countries histories is what I had to teach today. XD

I will say though, the US is a cheap visit and you can practice as much as you like

Can't do that in canada

I'm plotting my emigration to any country that is sane enough. Switzerland, the UK and the US are in the mix

maybe Norway, but that might be too cold for me

Well in the US I would say either the Mid Atlantic, South, or the Midwest are great areas to live in work on the whole

I wanna live in Wisconsin. I'm a Packers fan, so I gotta go there

and yes, it is still warmer than Norway 😉

Just know thats a blue state, it may line up with your views though awful well

the governor is red though, isn't he?

Yes, but its weird how localities and municipalities can differ so much within the state

and Trump won Wisconsin over Clinton...

Well, trump isn't too red...

yeah, I know

Not a bad thing

but still, he's more red than Clinton

Oh by far

so this gives me some hope