In the beginning, he knew he legally could not, but his personal feelings were that he abhorred slavery

But since the southern states decided to start an insurrection, they gave him the legally impetus to do so

Basically said something to the effect of "If I could win this without freeing the slaves, I would"

So, if the southern states would have not thrown their toys out of the crib, they would have retained their slaves and status quo antebellum

He wasn't really a champion of emancipation

He never said that, he said if maintainting slavery is what it took to avoid war, he would avoid war.

But he didn't start the war

VMI cadets at Battery Morris in Charleston Harbor fired at the Star of the West a month before PTG Beauregard ordered the bombardment of Ft. Sumpter

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So, @Deleted User in essense, the south tried to seceed because they perceived Lincoln as a threat to their "peculiar institution" but by doing so, they themselves sealed the fate of slavery in the south.

Im not saying we shouldn't have freed the slaves, brought it up because she started talking about Lincoln

Lincoln only took advantage of the political landscape at the time to be the champion of emancipation he wanted to be, but knew he legally could not be under normal circumstances

God this train smells like hobo piss

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Hi all, Matt Montana did vote for Hilary

In the primary or general?

was totally there

Primary

❤

Montana is an open primary.

Matt I'm here

My county didn't 😄

Canada will give you trudeau if you want him 😉 i'll take any conservative leader from there. anyone is better than him

trade us trudeau for bieber you might have a deal.

bieber is minor comparitively

at least he doesn't show off his socks

I know a lot of oil works from Canada and that problem might not matter soon

oil is going down down down.

Its sad because it is starting to pick up in North Dakota.

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Funny thing it's picking up in Alberta finally but NO ONE wants to work the rigs because there is no benefit to it like there was before. They can make the same at a delivery job and be home in the evening and weekend with their family at the moment. there used to be soooo many benefits. I know cause my hubby was on the rigs till he got laid off Mar 2016. He just finally got a job as a carpenter in training a couple months ago

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A little historical context for you all.

In the Weimar Republic, there were two fairly large parties gaining power. The Communist Party of Germany and that National Socialist German Workers Party. Both engaged in political violence and both were rather intimidating to the average German normie and, more importantly in this case, the German media. As both parties gained a larger following, the political center in Germany began to collapse. The majority of the media chose a side to back that they assumed would impact them the least negatively. The lesser of two evils. Adolf Hitler and the National Socialists. With far more positive media coverage towards the NSDAP, they fairly quickly became the one of the largest parties in Germany, Hitler was named Chancellor, and well... you know the rest.

Can you see the parallel, or to be more accurate, the perpendicular? The media is doing the same thing now that they did then. Except this time it's reversed. The media is more than happy to call out the evils of racial collectivism and Fascism, but they largely ignore and even sometimes give positive coverage to the violent Communist and Socialist side of this equation. Go watch the streams from the Unite the Right rally. Most of the violence was, in fact, initiated by the Anti Fascists throwing bottles of piss, rocks, pepper spray, ect. The usual shit.

President Trump actually did the right thing in this case. He did what a leader should do. He called out political violence and hatred ON ALL SIDES. Because ALL SIDES WERE INVOLVED and ALL SIDES WERE TO BLAME. And what did he get for it? Some of the most negative press coverage of his Presidency so far. 24/7 media coverage lambasting him for not condemning "the evils of white nationalism." He did. He condemned the Alt Right and Antifa like any sane person would. But we live in a post-fact world now.

Those that do not know history are doomed to repeat it. The media deserves Nazism and Communism imo.