Message from @Jeremy-Retard
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Actually, there were a lot more bigots in the past, but there was also more unity around the idea of America.
People allowed bigots to be bigoted
There were absolutely more racially bigoted views, but people lock into this weird binary about it and then have a meltdown when you mention nonwhite slave ownership
Or the fact that racial prejudice was not a European export, or solely directed from Europe outward
that's because nonwhite slave ownership doesn't fit the narrative
Yup
I think civil rights was a good first step in giving the free market the ability to sort out racism for us.
I don't mean that making it illegal for businesses to discriminate, but I do mean integration of public utilities
obviously you're going to have "whites only" and "coloreds only" businesses when you have white and colored water fountains
Absolutely. And the promotion and spreading of actual liberal values (as opposed to socialists calling themselves liberal) was a huge benefit for the West
Not only is that going to attract people escaping illiberal shitholes, but it's also the system least vulnerable to one moron shitting up everything
Right. I mean, if a guy opened a dry cleaner today and hung a sign out that said "No Blacks", he wouldn't even be in business for two months
Even without municipality intervention he'd go out of business
Klan robes will only pay the bills for so long
There's also the problem of trying to interpret the intentions of people in the past. It's a problem of relating to a foreign ignorance. It's much the same problem teachers have and parents have in teaching kids. The human brain cannot easily pretend it doesn't know the things it knows.
Since we don't have the set of knowledge/experience of people who have come before us, understanding their intent for evil or good becomes harder and harder the further into the pat we go.
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This is true but letting the market decide if he should be open or not is something we don't see the outrage mob just pile on until they are forced to close
Well and often we're trying to judge the actions of people acting on a lack of knowledge
That's precisely it. We don't have the isolated set of information that people in the past were dealing with.
No we know exactly what they were thinking
They were clearly thinking "We gotta make us a fascist ethnostate and unite the whites. I hope the libruls and Zionists don't halt our plans" :^)
Exactly
But on a less shitposty note, I think we're headed for some real shit
I'm not Blonde tier blackpilled where I think it's all fucked from that point onwards. It's probably really necessary actually
I do to it's just a matter of time before the final straw gets pulled
Time before collapse should be used for prepwork. You can't keep plugging the holes in the dam with Band-Aids and chewing gum. You gotta start moving the town
I can direct message you the article on the second civil war I wrote 5 years ago. I was borderline blackpilled already back then
I'm interestrd
I started seeing a lot of this right after the second inauguration of Obama...I actually started seeing the writing on the walls back during the first Obama Campaign
Oh I'm not even concerned about the civil war thing. Marxists are too divisive for even a large portion of the left. I just mean that Western governments are built on bullshit and wishes, especially the ones that try to follow the European welfare model
I just want the antifa density to go down around here before the collapse so I don't get gulag'd
August 22. 2013. When one of my co-workers looked across the circle of people and said "There's gonna be another civil war, and it's gonna be between the blacks and the mexicans".
I went straight home after work and wrote that
I dunno, I feel like you're, in a really roundabout way, being too optimistic about the solidarity of the Republican and Democratic parties. I'd bet anything that the vast majority of people vote apathetically along party lines, and even among the politically active there are splits within both camps
If you were going to get balkanization within the US I think it would look more like the States do now, rather than an even Union/Confederate type split
That was also 5 years ago when both parties were really united. The democrats had found a strong unity behind the Messiah Barack Obama, and the Republicans were really united on the fact that he had to go. In 2015 both parties absolutely splintered
I'd argue that it was more splintered already, it just got downplayed
Just like how there's a large segment of Trump voters who just didn't want Hillary, but people like to ignore that on both sides