Message from @J Edgar

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2018-04-22 15:20:26 UTC  

Well and often we're trying to judge the actions of people acting on a lack of knowledge

2018-04-22 15:20:50 UTC  

That's precisely it. We don't have the isolated set of information that people in the past were dealing with.

2018-04-22 15:21:05 UTC  

We can't really understand the limitations of their thinking, not really.

2018-04-22 15:21:53 UTC  

No we know exactly what they were thinking

2018-04-22 15:24:41 UTC  

They were clearly thinking "We gotta make us a fascist ethnostate and unite the whites. I hope the libruls and Zionists don't halt our plans" :^)

2018-04-22 15:25:07 UTC  

Exactly

2018-04-22 15:25:24 UTC  

But on a less shitposty note, I think we're headed for some real shit

2018-04-22 15:26:04 UTC  

I'm not Blonde tier blackpilled where I think it's all fucked from that point onwards. It's probably really necessary actually

2018-04-22 15:26:04 UTC  

I do to it's just a matter of time before the final straw gets pulled

2018-04-22 15:26:55 UTC  

Time before collapse should be used for prepwork. You can't keep plugging the holes in the dam with Band-Aids and chewing gum. You gotta start moving the town

2018-04-22 15:27:09 UTC  

I can direct message you the article on the second civil war I wrote 5 years ago. I was borderline blackpilled already back then

2018-04-22 15:27:23 UTC  

I'm interestrd

2018-04-22 15:28:20 UTC  

I started seeing a lot of this right after the second inauguration of Obama...I actually started seeing the writing on the walls back during the first Obama Campaign

2018-04-22 15:28:41 UTC  

Oh I'm not even concerned about the civil war thing. Marxists are too divisive for even a large portion of the left. I just mean that Western governments are built on bullshit and wishes, especially the ones that try to follow the European welfare model

2018-04-22 15:29:16 UTC  

I just want the antifa density to go down around here before the collapse so I don't get gulag'd

2018-04-22 15:31:46 UTC  

August 22. 2013. When one of my co-workers looked across the circle of people and said "There's gonna be another civil war, and it's gonna be between the blacks and the mexicans".

2018-04-22 15:31:54 UTC  

I went straight home after work and wrote that

2018-04-22 15:38:54 UTC  

I dunno, I feel like you're, in a really roundabout way, being too optimistic about the solidarity of the Republican and Democratic parties. I'd bet anything that the vast majority of people vote apathetically along party lines, and even among the politically active there are splits within both camps

2018-04-22 15:39:45 UTC  

If you were going to get balkanization within the US I think it would look more like the States do now, rather than an even Union/Confederate type split

2018-04-22 15:40:17 UTC  

That was also 5 years ago when both parties were really united. The democrats had found a strong unity behind the Messiah Barack Obama, and the Republicans were really united on the fact that he had to go. In 2015 both parties absolutely splintered

2018-04-22 15:41:16 UTC  

I'd argue that it was more splintered already, it just got downplayed

2018-04-22 15:41:49 UTC  

Just like how there's a large segment of Trump voters who just didn't want Hillary, but people like to ignore that on both sides

2018-04-22 15:42:11 UTC  

Inconvenient to too many narratives

2018-04-22 15:45:17 UTC  

Even now I bet a good chunk of Republicans still hate Trump but "support" him because they want to get policies through. There were probably a lot of Dems who just wanted the ACA or to shut down Gitmo, and were unhappy with the policy of expanding state surveillance and destabilizing nations

2018-04-22 16:02:14 UTC  

There were a lot of dems who put their fingers in their ears when Expanding state surveillance and destabilizing nations were talked about

2018-04-22 16:11:12 UTC  

To not be unshakable about European unity would just be foolish lol. You don't even habe to be a Neuro to realize that unity is good for Europeans.

2018-04-22 16:13:26 UTC  

What about Iceland, Poland, japan and many others? Theyre not facist. I dont see why people believe that ethni states require fascism. It just requires thst2the people have a government that represents them.

2018-04-22 16:19:26 UTC  

What's good for people and what will actually happen are two different things. This is also the problem commies run into

2018-04-22 16:19:43 UTC  

Also Japan is being forced to consider immigration because their birth rate is shit

2018-04-22 16:21:08 UTC  

Poland has a similar problem. Their birth rate and death rate aren't terribly dissimilar, with their death rate being higher multiple years in a row

2018-04-22 16:21:50 UTC  

Hardly reasons to force "diverity" on people who don't accept it.

2018-04-22 16:22:33 UTC  

Are you arguing against me or Marxists again? I'm not for forced association

2018-04-22 16:28:36 UTC  

Further, thought experiment: you're living in a nice huwaito country, among people who believe the same shit as you and hold the same values. Your birth rate is hilariously low due to a mix of the usual sort of social and economic factors, however group Y are banding together and supporting each other, and making use of aspects of your system to produce living situations that are more viable for their group to survive, and in some cases are considered repugnant (but not illegal) to your group. They are also white. You know they want to replace your cultural values with their own. Do you A: Accept the destruction of your culture in the presence of an adaptively superior, if morally devoid, other? Or do you B: import nonwhites who ultimately share your core cultural values, even if they might have different practices on top of that

2018-04-22 17:00:29 UTC  

Tbh i don't care so much for an ethnostate. All I would like is for us to have a hightened sense of kinship. So my goals are more cultural than political.

2018-04-22 17:01:09 UTC  

I was only commenting about ethnistates cuz someone else keeps bringing it up.

2018-04-22 17:03:24 UTC  

I think when i said I was a white nationalist it was percieved wrongly and I probably should use a different term.

2018-04-22 17:13:38 UTC  

...but to comment on ethnostates, it seems i disagree with a lot of opinions here. It just seems to me that the existing ethnostates function just fine, yet the idea still gets flak. I even would say that America was (my ideal ) ethnostate up to 1970 ish and it was highly successful. Not to say that today's America isn't.

2018-04-22 17:16:21 UTC  

Well the thought experiment needn't be an ethnostate. It's a basic premise about valuation between racial and cultural majority. Also Japan clearly is not functioning just fine, and Poland is potentially in the same boat. Iceland just isn't scalable, and is primarily one ethnicity, not simply one race. All three countries have low birth rates, with only Iceland's severe drop in death rates keeping their numbers up

2018-04-22 17:31:20 UTC  

Also is Dank Brigade still up? It seems to have dropped off of my discord list somehow

2018-04-22 17:34:03 UTC  

Oh apparently it died. RIP