No but seriously the idea of an ethno state would only work in monarchical or fascist government any other way you relinquish to much control to the people

The more I talk to people about the Ethnostate/White Nationalism, the less people getting wigged out about discussing it makes sense to me tbh. I still remember that Hitchens interview where he basically just shit on this one white nationalist dude to the point where his father phoned in and then also got wrecked. It wasn't honest debate obviously, but it's another point in favour of not needing to be afraid of the "bad man"'s ideas. You're not going to "catch the Nazi", silly communists (but you might catch a free ride on my helicopter)

Also 1/8th Native so I await the creation of my people's ethnostate where we drive out the paleface in morally justifiable fashion and then accomplish nothing for another century or two 👌

In addition, I was looking at some other items. After some light research, I don't think that there was any particular ethnic minority that started coming here in 1965

Well that's just it you get labeled a racist for even considering talking to those types of people so everyone avoids

Most of them have been coming here since before there was a country

I think it was reference to a legislative change

It was a reference, but he cited specifically that they started flooding in that year

I had no clue what he was talking about with that

I did look into that, too

But yeah, Chinese workers were hugely important to NA development, because everyone gave them shit wages and they worked hard. My how times have changed :^)

Yesteryear: the Chinese workees who built the CNR for shit wages and lived in poor conditions came to NA to build a better life. Today: the Chinese workers who build your iPads for shit wages and live in poor conditions probably couldn't leave China if they tried.

South American Immigrants have been coming here since the 17th century. Arabs have been coming since the 1800s

the East Asians have been immigrating here since the early 1800s. The first Japanese in the country actually were rescued from a shipwreck and given asylum in New England

And I understand that the majority of Africans did not immigrate willingly, but they've also been here as long as there have been colonies

Like I had said last night, the more I discuss these things the more I find that they come from a very specifically romanticized view of history

It's like the mirror to the SJW narrative of "everyone in the past was a bigot and if you were a racist back in the year 1784 then all of your accomplishments are nullified. It was all evil white people and poor oppressed slaves". History is messy as fuck

Actually, there were a lot more bigots in the past, but there was also more unity around the idea of America.

People allowed bigots to be bigoted

There were absolutely more racially bigoted views, but people lock into this weird binary about it and then have a meltdown when you mention nonwhite slave ownership

Or the fact that racial prejudice was not a European export, or solely directed from Europe outward

that's because nonwhite slave ownership doesn't fit the narrative

Yup

I think civil rights was a good first step in giving the free market the ability to sort out racism for us.

I don't mean that making it illegal for businesses to discriminate, but I do mean integration of public utilities

obviously you're going to have "whites only" and "coloreds only" businesses when you have white and colored water fountains

Absolutely. And the promotion and spreading of actual liberal values (as opposed to socialists calling themselves liberal) was a huge benefit for the West

Not only is that going to attract people escaping illiberal shitholes, but it's also the system least vulnerable to one moron shitting up everything

Right. I mean, if a guy opened a dry cleaner today and hung a sign out that said "No Blacks", he wouldn't even be in business for two months

Even without municipality intervention he'd go out of business

Klan robes will only pay the bills for so long

There's also the problem of trying to interpret the intentions of people in the past. It's a problem of relating to a foreign ignorance. It's much the same problem teachers have and parents have in teaching kids. The human brain cannot easily pretend it doesn't know the things it knows.

Since we don't have the set of knowledge/experience of people who have come before us, understanding their intent for evil or good becomes harder and harder the further into the pat we go.

past*

This is true but letting the market decide if he should be open or not is something we don't see the outrage mob just pile on until they are forced to close

Well and often we're trying to judge the actions of people acting on a lack of knowledge

That's precisely it. We don't have the isolated set of information that people in the past were dealing with.

We can't really understand the limitations of their thinking, not really.

No we know exactly what they were thinking

They were clearly thinking "We gotta make us a fascist ethnostate and unite the whites. I hope the libruls and Zionists don't halt our plans" :^)

Exactly