I mean the whole running joke was that everything was a homosexual joke between Italy and Germany

And France was supposed to be this twink

But it progressively got worse and worse since the author started interacting with the toxic fandom

I don't like looking at things that way "This thing that might be good (or bad), i can no longer like because of its fans". But it does get annoying how people change what is really being said/done and make it into what they want it to be.

I can understand it. Undertale is that for me.

@Shire! The opening was good.

I can never look at something as: I can never enjoy this because of how other people have ruined it.

Over how good the entertainment is.

@Shadows I thought so also.

@Shadows I mean the open to Crowder. But you boys better get in the waiting room cause this seems like it needs to be resolved over voice then text......

lol nothing needs to be resolved, just people giving opinions.

Well we all have opinions just like assholes lol

But voice over text does give some inflection.

@Shadows no, in Hetalia’s case, the fandom started to actually influence the work, hence it got worse over time

It became less of a political comedy and more fag comedy with a political inflection

Oh no i just meant in general, i've not seen those so i wouldn't know, but ya that's sad if that happened.

But that also just goes back to if the entertainment is good or not. So if it turns into trash (because of the fans or not), its not really worth it.

@grant re: analogy - hmmm... well not to be too anal retentive, but you really shouldn't be asking if there's a cat or not. There IS a cat. You're asking whether the cat is dead. On the larger point, I guess it depends on what you take to be a given...

I was accepting the inability to investigate as a given. After all, Trump appointed Pence to head a commission at the start of 2017- backed by leadership throughout federal government (exec & both chambers) but it was still stymied by state level opposition- despite having 2/3 state houses. It's impossible to create a better environment, ad the commission was dissolved (without doing anything) after a few months.

If it's impossible in theory to measure - then dark matter is a better analogy, because we talk about something we know exists, but we can only indirectly gain knowledge of it when it has a massive impact on something else. if there's a scandal, then we will be able to learn if fraud was a part of it when investigating the scandal - but we can't go out investigating the possibility of fraud without the scandal as a predicate. We're just supposed to assume there's a level of it that exists everywhere, but we can't challenge that the level is significantly more or less than the 'consensus' figure arrived at by academics (who have agendas of their own). That level becomes a baked in assumption which you not only can't directly investigate - but challenging it gets you labeled as a kook for rejecting the expert consensus or for denying science.

BTW, I thought the Dangerous Mugs open was meh until they finally got to the kicker at the end: shut the F--- up Jorge! That was hilarious.

Janeway was a good captain, change my mind

No reason to. You are already too far gone

So, any fellow Georgians breathing a sigh of relief that crazy black lady didn't get governor?

Yeah but now you have months of her asking for recounts

fairly sure the difference was not close enough for her to official call for a recount

She’s the black version of Hillary

But you know

According to her they all look alike anyway

the rules are different when it's a democrat doing it

wat the fuck

it was not 50.3 when i was watching NYT on election day

jesus christ

All right so I’m gonna be @Shire! and summon a talk space about this in the voice chats area if anyone wants to

It’s a quiet day in the shop <.<

I'm trying to get tomorrow's video out before I pass out

otherwise I'd be there

Sadlyf

you know

i think Ben shapiro went over this or something

that what they are doing is literally illegal