Pretty much the same.

To clarify I'm talking about "a supernatural being created the universe and then fucked off" vs "this virtue is God"

Which aren't the same

Theism is just religion

Or at least what people typically mean when they say religion

Sure

Monotheism is theism based around a God, like the Abrahamic faiths, Atheism is based around no Gods, either due to assertion of proof against or just lack of proof for

Theism is the common root

Still functionally the same. Jordan Peterson can’t state what he actually believes about God in his position.

Why do you figure that?

He has at one point saying that he does not but he lives like he does

Because the ideas are like denominations of the same religion.

Peterson gets called a Nazi and lectures on the bible all the time. I don't think saying "I'm Christian and believe in God" would hurt him

By that logic all Monotheism is just Zoroastrianism

The Christian God has specific properties. If you don't believe those properties how are you still a Christian?

Ok. I see your point.

But they are still functionally the same.

In some scenarios, sure. Does Peterson believe the creation story though? Or just use it as metaphor?

He treats it metaphorically

Does he believe the events in the Bible or see them as fables that he uses to create his own moral compass, hence his use of Nietzsche?

A blend of both

There are historical aspects of the bible and there are the miraculous/mystical aspects of it

Why is a deist required to view the creation of the universe through a Christian Lens ? Deism is the idea that God exist creative universe and stepped aside. That’s it.

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Well that's the thing, has Peterson commented on creation? I only ever hear him talk about God as Order

He leans toward the evolutionary aspect of things.

That is called intelligent design.

The driving force in *evolution* isn't a designer though

Why isn't it though?

Because it's caused by environmental and genetic factors. It's measurable. Humans also went through it

Right...but the intelligent design would be its origin

Is the argument then that humans don't have free will, since everything about them was forced to be the way it is?

Right but we're talking about the process

Not the origin point

Right. But Intelligent Design would be the origin and evolution would be the process

Just because it’s measurable doesn’t mean that God isn’t n behind it.

The driving force in evolution is what makes it occur over time

@Salacious Swanky Cat then Free Will is a myth, because our progress and procreation are divinely controlled

This sounds like it's going into the free will vs predestination argument

@Beemann lol. Not entirely Mr. Calvinist.

Didn't the Christians have that argument a long time ago and the free will people won?