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He has at one point saying that he does not but he lives like he does
Because the ideas are like denominations of the same religion.
Peterson gets called a Nazi and lectures on the bible all the time. I don't think saying "I'm Christian and believe in God" would hurt him
By that logic all Monotheism is just Zoroastrianism
The Christian God has specific properties. If you don't believe those properties how are you still a Christian?
Ok. I see your point.
But they are still functionally the same.
In some scenarios, sure. Does Peterson believe the creation story though? Or just use it as metaphor?
He treats it metaphorically
Does he believe the events in the Bible or see them as fables that he uses to create his own moral compass, hence his use of Nietzsche?
A blend of both
There are historical aspects of the bible and there are the miraculous/mystical aspects of it
Why is a deist required to view the creation of the universe through a Christian Lens ? Deism is the idea that God exist creative universe and stepped aside. That’s it.
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Well that's the thing, has Peterson commented on creation? I only ever hear him talk about God as Order
He leans toward the evolutionary aspect of things.
That is called intelligent design.
The driving force in *evolution* isn't a designer though
Why isn't it though?
Because it's caused by environmental and genetic factors. It's measurable. Humans also went through it
Is the argument then that humans don't have free will, since everything about them was forced to be the way it is?
Right but we're talking about the process
Not the origin point
Right. But Intelligent Design would be the origin and evolution would be the process
Just because it’s measurable doesn’t mean that God isn’t n behind it.
The driving force in evolution is what makes it occur over time
@Salacious Swanky Cat then Free Will is a myth, because our progress and procreation are divinely controlled
This sounds like it's going into the free will vs predestination argument
@Beemann lol. Not entirely Mr. Calvinist.
Didn't the Christians have that argument a long time ago and the free will people won?
Yeah but it's kind of reached a point where both can be true. At least, people are believing both can be true
If a divine being controls how your species progresses, which includes who you procreate with, how do you have free will?
@grant their denominations it still believe in predestination over free will. I’m actually going to denomination right now that believes in predestination.
Evolution isn't a thing that happened, it's *happening*
@yuma_8 I understand that. That is correct.
I look at it like a Choose-your-own-Adventure book. The Author gives you multiple endings and you just go on the ride
Right but you're saying he chooses the end
If he's the driving force behind evolutionary progress
@Beemann Because you can think. And God already knows the choice you’re going to make
I think He knows the end. Not that He chooses the end