If Owen was fine mentally/emotionally he wouldn't even be doing these things like he went off on Crowder or Joe or Peterson. Again, its not what you think about these people. These are not things a healthy person does.

In the final analysis, to be a comedian, you have to have a few loose screws.

Oddly, some people will be cool with your brand of crazy, some won’t

Personally I like Benjamin’s stand up a fair amount. The rest of his stuff comes across to me as a little discordant, and that’s about it.
I try not to make anyone into a demigod

Good perspective Nic. As for Shadows, Owen didn’t “go off” on Crowder. Evidence please. Joe and Peterson should have MORE people “going off” on them, not less.

Why did he apologize to crowder if he didn't "go off" on him.

whats issue between the two i dont follow Owen

My concern is that he seemed to start insolating himself from anyone who criticized him. That's usually not a good thing. Hearing that his relationship with crowder is still good is a good thing. It means he's not insolated and has people he trusts who can give him feedback who he will listen to.

He was claiming that crowder fired him and cut off ties

turns out that's not the case, which is good news, because I like the stuff they do together

I suspect when they start doing stuff together again all this concerned about owen stuff will go away

It seems like Owen can get a little parinoid

I understand why though. He got screwed over by CAA.

they fired him over saying pushing trans on kids is wrong, then they go and pick up Jordan peterson.

I think its social media, he's quick to get on it and say what he's thinking. He should probably reach out and talk to people first. This is usually behavior of people on the left, and I think this is why some people were concerned. At least for me the crowder apology is a good sign that my concerns were unfounded for now.

Hey. Meatspace. It’s real

https://youtu.be/Jzz40CK0fjc

people should look at these crazy people. Their goals. One of which is net 0 carbon emissions by 2025.....of course with 0 ideas of how to do that.https://rebellion.earth/

You don’t have to be able to do anything, just say you’re going to and then demonize the other side when they push back

Then give in immediately while feigning effort to make yourself look good

look guys, we shouldn't worry about being factually correct when we're being *morally right*

and of course to get to their protests they drive their gas powered vehicles wearing their clothes made in other countries transported using fossil fuels so they can buy them

Of course, AOC doesn't seem to understand that being truthful is as morally right as you can get

There was a great article I think Shapiro wrote it where he outlines how being factually incorrect can't be morally right

I might have to disagree with Ben on that (wouldn't be the first time lol) @I Know a Fat Guy

well I don't agree all the time with him either. However I don't see how you can be factually incorrect yet still be morally right....I mean if your facts are wrong how can your conclusion be correct?

I think there are some exceptions to that idea. I can picture many instances where lying about reality might be a more moral option over a fact of reality. But, its not something i would want to do often (maybe if at all).

I can see that on a small scale....say interpersonal relationships.....but on a national scale? ehhhhhhh

Lets go with a big scale, crazy idea. If a meteor were to be on its way to hit the earth, one that could kill most if not all of us, and only the government knew about, or made anyone else who watches the stars knew about it but made them keep quite (this isn't likely, but just tossing out the idea).
If there was nothing we could do about it, would it be morally good or bad to tell everyone. I think i might argue to keep it a secret and lie.

well there is a difference between not saying anything and lying. Take your example. Keep it quiet sure. If asked about the meteor then tell the truth. People are going to find out. I just see the fine line between that and the NSA spying when they lied to congress. Factually incorrect but thought he was morally right.

In my example, its not possible for anyone to find out (outside of the few that already know). But ya, i think we understand, some things are difficult to grade on a scale of whats More moral.

How do you know that the meteor impact is not preventable if you don‘t get input from everyone who might have an idea on how to stop it? If you don‘t say something you might not hear from the one guy that actually would have a plan that works because of his experience in something absurd that you would not even consider to be relevant like... plumbing... or something.

I‘m all all for zero carbon emissions as long as i‘m not the guy that has to kill all the cows.

@I AM ERROR Chelyabinsk meteor?

Who saw it before enter the atmosphere?

How you prevent it?

Lying is never moral. It may sometimes be EXCUSABLE or UNDERSTANDABLE, but never moral.

The purpose of moral philosophy or theology is to give us standard operating procedures for when shit hits the fan.

90% of my time in the military and 99.9% of my tens of thousands of (well spent) martial arts training were about that.

Seeing as the former prevented any of my own troops from dieing and the latter has saved my life on at least five occasions, I consider this preparation well spent

YMMV of course. Many people have a high-k approach to life