Well the other thing I would say is that it's shitty that it got to this point but I think it's far more likely than not that the emergency declaration is upheld... Much as the the judiciary would like to stop it there's pretty firm legal ground there

The Dems say its not a emergency. I bet if I looked back at all the Emergency Declarations over half weren't

Marbury vs. Madison kinda ties their hands, because stepping into what is and is not an emergency is very clearly a "political question" (a legal term) which according to that case is outside the purview of the court

I'm still get amazed how congress keeps giving up powers

They did this in the late 60s to facilitate NeoCon wars

And interventions

Basically the deep state and swamp could operate more freely

actually started earlier look what Woodrow Wilson passed and all the progressive stuff in the early 19th

They rewrote it in the 60s to give the executive more power when an emergency is declared

Lmao

Muh neocon wars

So what about the rule that says that you have to get the approval of local elected officials to build the wall in those areas?

That was in a previous draft, as I said. Now they have to collect comments and notify local officials but the DHS has the ultimate say and can override their wishes.

Well, I'm glad that you were here to tell us this. The show was a big black pill for me.

They said that in the podcast I thought

I still don't see any way that Trump could actually lose to anyone that has announced that they are going to run, but then I didn't see how an absolute stuffed suit like Obama could win either.

Yeah, I was for Hillary back in 08, I didn't see Obama winning at all

@Cypher It does get annoying when people are complaining about these things with out understanding how they work... Was it a bad bill? Most likely (but like you said, not as bad as lots of people think, Razorfist also called out Coulter for that crap), but that's what it means to compromise to keep things moving forward...

Well yes but this one is a bit understandable because of the volume of misinformation and confusion around it... Coulter though should be better

@Shadows totally agree

I'm sick of people seeing compromise as a bad thing

I have too many communists on my Facebook page that I can't delete 😩
I definitely have a much bleaker outlook that Matt for the future of this county/what people are willing to believe & vote for...

I'm not suggesting compromise is a great solution, I honestly think the right needs to learn to be intransigent because that's the only way we wrench this thing back in course... But this wasn't a compromise. Trump fucked up when he trusted Paul Ryan, I think he realizes that now, and this was the way forward to get the wall. His signature on the spending bill was irrelevant, it had a Veto proof majority.

Yeah TBH the Conservative mentality if anything is too mature / willing to compromise

I'm all for standing your ground when you need to.

It's not really compromise if you aren't actually getting anything out of it @wail.

I hear ppl say the American medical system is the worse of all world's because it is compromised. That is instead of going full capitalist or socialist
It's the worst of both

@Cypher are you sure the right isnt already TOO intransigent
https://youtu.be/4pITlnrvhrY

At first I thought you were serious and then I saw you linked vox and got the joke

heh

@Cypher I actually was legit asking lol. I know vox is usually trash but they seem to be making a point?(Maybe even a good one?)

I guess i have to watch the video now to see how stupid it is... Thanks @TailsFromTheIntellectualDarkWeb

The right has been ceding ground without a real fight on almost everything except tax cuts for decades

Especially the culture war, they simply chose not to fight it at all because they didn't want to seem "bigoted or racist"

Cuckservative is how I’ve seen it phrased.

Seems apt.

Now you have demon trannies reading to children and Desmond is Amazing

Exactly, Cuckservatives

@Shadows my bad lol

Yay, we called them some names. That makes our problems better......

It doesn't but the never Trump/NeoCons largely abandoning the Republicans does