Cypher

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2019-02-19 21:19:52 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Well Kamala Harris and Beto have all the big donors backing them, including those that jumped ship from the Republicans. I have a hunch we'll see Beto jump on board Harris' ticket as VP and then they'll be the funding juggernaut for the primary and beyond.

2019-02-19 21:23:53 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

I don't think the dem establishment is happy that he's joining the race, as it appears they're coalescing around Harris

2019-02-19 21:25:14 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Which is probably why they moved the California primary to Super Tuesday, she's expected to win her home state so if she picks up one or two others that day she'll be way ahead from an optics perspective

2019-02-19 21:26:01 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

So then the press and everything will just jump on board and steam roll the other candidates... At least that's probably their plan

2019-02-19 21:26:41 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Since I expect the primary on their side to devolve into internet Blood sports essentially

2019-02-19 22:08:28 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

I finally finished the latest episode of the podcast, well I still have to get through all the super chat at the end but it seems Matt and Blonde got sucked in by the misinformation about the spending bill, which is understandable because man there was a lot of it.

2019-02-19 22:12:16 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

The big things are that there were different drafts of the bill and two of the big negative provisions they referrenced aren't in the version that was passed and the worst one isn't as big a deal as some are making it out to be. Unfortunately Anne Coulter has been running around with her hair on fire instead of being more rational.

2019-02-19 22:13:26 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

The bit about needing local political approval was changed, the DHS needs to consult with local officials and notify them but don't need their approval to do anything.

2019-02-19 22:14:04 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

There's no mileage limit on the wall, the 55 miles now just refers to what can likely be built with the money provided.

2019-02-19 22:16:23 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Finally the worst provision 224 about unaccompanied minors doesn't mean what a lot of people think it does. " Official Sponsor" has, as the DHS made clear in a press release, a specific legal definition that doesn't just mean anyone with a minor who gets to the border. It requires filling paperwork with the DHS

2019-02-19 22:17:03 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Combine that with the "remain in Mexico" initiative and the pool of people it refers two is miniscule.

2019-02-19 22:17:28 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

The bill was still a shit sandwich but not the disaster some are suggesting...

2019-02-19 22:20:33 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

The mistake Trump made was trusting Paul Ryan and not ramming through stuff when Republicans were more in control. But this bill passed with a VETO PROOF majority so if Trump had bounced it back Congress may have loaded up with more shit that wasn't just time handouts to the left

2019-02-19 22:26:08 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Well the other thing I would say is that it's shitty that it got to this point but I think it's far more likely than not that the emergency declaration is upheld... Much as the the judiciary would like to stop it there's pretty firm legal ground there

2019-02-19 22:27:54 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Marbury vs. Madison kinda ties their hands, because stepping into what is and is not an emergency is very clearly a "political question" (a legal term) which according to that case is outside the purview of the court

2019-02-19 22:29:36 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

They did this in the late 60s to facilitate NeoCon wars

2019-02-19 22:29:49 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

And interventions

2019-02-19 22:30:07 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Basically the deep state and swamp could operate more freely

2019-02-19 22:31:39 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

They rewrote it in the 60s to give the executive more power when an emergency is declared

2019-02-19 23:02:19 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

That was in a previous draft, as I said. Now they have to collect comments and notify local officials but the DHS has the ultimate say and can override their wishes.

2019-02-19 23:47:55 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Well yes but this one is a bit understandable because of the volume of misinformation and confusion around it... Coulter though should be better

2019-02-20 01:52:58 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

I'm not suggesting compromise is a great solution, I honestly think the right needs to learn to be intransigent because that's the only way we wrench this thing back in course... But this wasn't a compromise. Trump fucked up when he trusted Paul Ryan, I think he realizes that now, and this was the way forward to get the wall. His signature on the spending bill was irrelevant, it had a Veto proof majority.

2019-02-20 02:29:31 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

At first I thought you were serious and then I saw you linked vox and got the joke

2019-02-20 02:34:30 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

The right has been ceding ground without a real fight on almost everything except tax cuts for decades

2019-02-20 02:35:37 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Especially the culture war, they simply chose not to fight it at all because they didn't want to seem "bigoted or racist"

2019-02-20 02:36:09 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Now you have demon trannies reading to children and Desmond is Amazing

2019-02-20 02:36:36 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Exactly, Cuckservatives

2019-02-20 02:38:04 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

It doesn't but the never Trump/NeoCons largely abandoning the Republicans does

2019-02-20 02:39:17 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

It's a complex web of problems, in recent decades we can trace it back to Buckley's purges of the right which made space for the NeoCons

2019-02-20 02:39:57 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

"racists"

2019-02-20 02:40:18 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Some maybe were but it also purged guys like Pat Buchanan

2019-02-20 02:44:08 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

I'm much more in the Blonde Fuhrer camp, maybe more extreme. This is an absurd generality, but to me if it's like a choice between some racists and racism being around or like this rampant crazy leftism and where they're trying to lead us. I'll take the former.

2019-02-20 02:45:08 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Yeah, that's not far off from where we are TBH

2019-02-20 02:47:37 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

I'm not attributing to her necessarily, I'm just giving you an idea of where I'm coming from.

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