There is a spinoff to this server

isnt it still on discord?

afaik Sargon still has his
server so until his goes this one is safe

@Saint I'm in Phoenix, let me know, I might try to make the trip. My GF gave me the goahead tonight 😄

I wouldnt expect any consistency from discord

I still gotta talk to liberative I'm thinking we should do a combined meet up all the Phoenix people and all the Tucson people

Casagrande shooting range.

and I would also not advise waiting until The Great Yeeting to think about backups

Then we could meet, AND shoot stuff at the same time 😄

That would be cool

and its about half way, especially if we have people in Mesa or North phoenix

Yo team, i am watching the stream, late, and they keep saying dissent is banned in NZ? I am from NZ and i can still use it

No VPN or Proxy

There have been a lot of rumors about what is banned in NZ. I've seen tweets saying dissenter, Bitchute and a bunch of other stuff is inaccessible.

@Saint @Blastil I'm down, I'll bring my new AR.

yeah I've seen stuff about all the banning in NZ. Time to get a VPN for those folks

A VPN wont do anything

the NZ government can easily trace it back to you

Get a few proxies to bounce your connection off of then hook up to a VPN (paid ones usually won't sell user info) if your vpn is worth using the nz Gov cant do shit @Sanpe

Well, they can do shit, it just becomes more expensive to do shit

Even TOR isn't 100% pure free and uncompromised

Arent the bans for disenter, etc just a bn on the host? What are the legal ramifications to the nz user in the #1 freeist country in the world?

VPNS don't make you invisible, they encrypt your traffic and cost time/money to decrypt.

so while TOR is a good way to keep your traffic encrypted and also inscrutable, enough data, time, and money will decrypt your data eventually.

the biggest problem for a government is that the more people who use a VPN, the more difficult it becomes to identify specifically who or what to listen to.

Yeah but does newzealand have the money to drop on hundreds of dudes using vpns for shit that might not even be related.

probably not, but they do have alliances to partner with the NSA who does.

and why bother with tracking VPNs when you can force companies to expose data?

And there are ways to be completely untraceable.

or even better, turn them into organs of censorship

Almost anywy

there are no ways to be completely untraceable.

If you transmit data, you're exposed. The question is how quickly you move off the transmission site, how long you transmit, and how long until someone breaks your encryption.

Setting up a physical private network then bouncing your signal off some not western friendly nation like Pakistani proxy then hooking up to a vpn would make you essentially untraceable. At best they could locate the ppn but that doesn't need to be anywhere near you.

yeah, but then you're limited to the scope of your physical network.

which depending on your hardware could be 100 yards maybe at best? and what are you going to do, run wires across roofs?

Better than getting raped by feds.

eh, if they can get to 100 yards of you that's a plenty small area to bomb/send troops.

it would be better to be mobile.

tracing to hardware is easy, but if you're moving, that makes it orders of magnitude harder to predict where you will be, and when.

I would suggest using a vpn (READ THEIR PRIVACY POLICY) that:
1. **Stores as little (none is better) user data as possible**
2. **Is based in a privacy or free web country, no spying by that country's govt, and no regulation against privacy**
3. **Has NO WebRTC leaks (CRITICAL!)**
4. **If it does store (non-identifying) user data, it should be removed as quickly as possible**
5. ** Is open sourced or utilizes open sourced VPN software**
6. **does not hand off information to foreign governments or sell it to anyone**


Thats only the VPN.
There are many many other options for you to stay secure and private online.