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i slept 23 hours yesterday, I've been awake for maybe 3 hours today and already ready for bed again, being sick suuucks

Drink water you'll be fine.

What the hell 😭 there was a meetup in Raleigh and no one pinged me

Michael you meanie

Whoever you are

Is there a place to see when one is planned?

As far as I know you just put your info down on the spread sheet and either wait to be contacted, or make it happen yourself.

I guess I should have put more contact info in my entry in the spreadsheet. Didn't put phone number or email address, just Discord handle

So that's a bummer. I was really looking forward to when there were enough Raleigh-area people to organize a meetup, and now I missed the one that just happened!

It'll probably happen again if it happened now and was successful

Yeah but the issue is whether or not I'll find out in time (i.e. not after the fact when I listen to the Sunday show)

Stupid question, where is the spread sheet?

I requested June 30th to July 6th off so if there is a meet up in the portland oregon area around that time I could go.

Normally its in Matt's video. It might be in this chat, but you will need to scroll up a bit. @dottypurrs

@Shadows thank you very much 😁

Sure thing.

Huh. I just checked the spreadsheet and it looks like the guy who hosted the Raleigh meetup isn't in there *at all*, so I can't contact him to request an invite if he decides to do another one

but wow, over 1400 entries now

Yes

Lots.

None close to me though.

Well, within 50 miles that is

So more than an after the pub stumble then?

Way more than that.

I don't really want to be the one to initiate contact with people, but I might have to

But I'm certainly not going to until I have time to coordinate all of that

I can't help but chuckle at the irony of Tim Pool ragging on the death penalty, about how it's one if his most important issues, while also being pro choice.

Abortion and the death penalty are nearly identical in practice.

They overlap in the fact that neither a unborn child or criminal is wanted. They overlap in the death of that person.

Where they differ is who decides to bare the burden of sustaining them, and how much potential the individual has to contribute to society.

Unborn children = Unknown potential for good or bad
Criminal = In most cases only has potential for harming society.

Death penalty = State deciding someone's right to life
Abortion = An individual deciding someone's right to life.

While you can argue for either position, they aren't the same. So equating them doesn't really help you.

Yeah I would consider pro choice + anti death penalty = hypocrisy to be on par with pro life + pro death penalty = hypocrisy
Which is to say I don't consider either statement valid

Of course there are differences between them, but conceptually you're taking the life of someone you don't want to care for.

The primary differences being who's deciding to do the killing, and the innocence/potential of that life.

You're just selecting the components of both that you personally want to equate and then attributing that to your opposition

You can't argue for the sanctity of life while also arguing that killing unborn babies is acceptable.

Then it's a good thing that the death penalty debate doesnt hinge on sanctity of life isn't it?

What grounds can a pro choice activist stand on that isn't contradictory to being against the death penalty?

If someone is put up for a death penalty, it was because of Their actions. Of them not valuing the sanctity of other life. And while you can argue that if you care about all life, then you should also care about the persons life on the line of a death sentence. It does not follow to the argument of weather or not we can define when life begins.

@DJ_Anuz I agree. I'm against both

I'm a big supporter of consistent life ethic

As am I.

I guess if the argument is that an unborn child is not a life then they aren't comparable in that instance.

Except by every objective metric the second an egg is fertilized it is a new unique human life. Undeveloped, but still a human life nontheless.

I'm not arguing when a life begins or not, i'm telling you those are 2 different arguments.