It's not a justification exactly. Just a removal of one of the stronger reasons to be staunchly against.

I still come down mostly anti.

Lol as a Christian I guess you could say I should be against based on what I think will happen to them after they die

I think murderers are in their own personal hell on Earth.

So you're saying it would be humane to end their suffering @DJ_Anuz? XD

In some instances. Maybe.

Like if I got bone cancer in my skull I would immediately seek euthanasia.

Course that's a little different

From mental hell.

@uncephalized I know, but to me i just thought of.
We shouldn't put this person to death because nothing after life exist.
We should put this person to death because life after death happens.
Or vise-versa, seems odd to me in in all versions of this, because what if anyone/everyone is wrong.
I'd rather deal with what is know when judging these things. But i guess others can do it differently heh.

So aren't, I don't know that Charles Manson minded his life in prison necessarily

Well I definitely believe in letting people choose death over imprisonment @DJ_Anuz

Actually framing it against euthanasia is probably a better comparison

@Shadows yeah your reasoning is sound. It's just an emotional/outlook shift on my part that I find interesting.

@micamike45 I was thinking about framing it vs killing off old people before they become to much of a burden lol.

@micamike45 equivalent to putting down a rabid or vicious dog?

Because I'm anti euthanasia so you COULD say it isn't right to only let people out if they've committed a heinous crime

@uncephalized Yep, its always good to revisit your personal beliefs.

I am 100% in support of voluntary euthanasia

Had a friend go through bone cancer in his head. I would literally rather chop of my dick and bleed out than go through that.

Its something that i think we should allow for, people shouldn't have to suffer if we can no longer do anything for them.

What kind of pain qualifies though? What's the point where you can tell a doctor who's sworn to do no harm to kill you?

That's just a motto (and a good one), doctors very much do a lot of harm (mostly in an effort to heal you). But, like i said before these are all tough decisions.

Any kind of pain qualifies in my book. If you truly would rather die than go through a certain amount of pain that should be your choice. Doctor's don't need to be doing the killing. Just give you the tools.

I wouldn't go so far as to say any kind of pain.... but that's me.

That doesn't sound like it would be good for the depressed

Indeed.

I also have a problem with the potential corruption of euthanasia in people who aren't mentally capable

Yep, that brings up other concerns.

The societies where taking the easy way out is heavily discouraged seem to do better historically

Its ok everyone, i will soon start my plan to end all life on this planet before i head off to another world.

Of sound mind is often the requirement for such things

I think there should always be social stigma against offing yourself, but I think it's better to be euthanized than hanging or some other method

Yeah, but I've personally seen where whether or not someone is of sound mind is...hard to say. Kind of like with the death penalty the potential consequence of a mistake is too high to me

At least with physical illnesses. Like, in my extreme example, bone cancer in the skull. (Unless it's treatable)

Well that's quite the walking back from any pain

What about terrorist?

I'm willing to compromise.

The Christchurch shooters, or the New Years Truck Driver

shooter*

I think i would just leave it to terminal illnesses. @micamike45