Message from @Putz

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2019-05-16 14:35:05 UTC  

I don't think Matt reads discord much would be better if you e-mailed him

2019-05-16 14:35:57 UTC  

Someone in here has to know how to get his attention. I'll gab at Blond as well.

2019-05-16 14:43:13 UTC  

Email is the best way to contact Matt or Blonde. They say as much during their streams.

2019-05-16 17:43:50 UTC  

Anyone watch Whang!?

2019-05-16 18:52:34 UTC  

surprised to see the ping here. sucks there wasn't a call in show

2019-05-16 19:49:03 UTC  

@NazirinKA Justin Whang is one of my favorite YouTubers that I had no expectation of liking so much. Which is weird that I have a category denoted by people I like more than I expected, but there are several channels in that category, so there it is.

2019-05-16 20:03:42 UTC  

Did you ever notice that he made reference to Metokur and Sargon in a video?

2019-05-16 20:26:03 UTC  

@wolfman1911
Liberty Doll... 'Cause I don't like libertarians.

2019-05-16 20:41:48 UTC  

Before I got banned for thought crime, I couldn't help but notice that most of the people I followed on Twitter were libertarians, despite not being one of them myself.

2019-05-16 20:43:41 UTC  

¿Minarchist? Minarchists and libertarians are often similar...

2019-05-16 21:34:34 UTC  

Nah, I'm just a boring old conservative.

2019-05-17 01:10:44 UTC  

Glad I'm not the only pearl-clutcher around here!

2019-05-17 01:14:02 UTC  

@RoadtoDawn I'm still not even done with you.

2019-05-17 02:41:51 UTC  

Classical liberal gang

2019-05-17 03:52:10 UTC  

Why cant you be socially liberal, fiscally conservative, and believe in border security?

2019-05-17 03:57:05 UTC  

Because you can... But tribalism.
Me, irl I'm a perverted old man (seriously, and you have no idea) who doesn't care overmuch about gay marriage and pot, as long as I don't have to be around it, but I'm not *"allowed"* to talk about that because leftist *litterally* hate me (Vox did a hit peice on me).

2019-05-17 04:09:11 UTC  

Im not clear how libetarian (as a party) believes in national defense but doesn't believe in secure borders. Secure borders is at its core a defense issue, sure some people may prioritise employment/economic concerns, but the central and what should be unifying principal should be defense

2019-05-17 04:10:24 UTC  

I think the LP is basically in the abolish ICE crowd

2019-05-17 04:11:04 UTC  

I'm not really sure how much they believe in national defense

2019-05-17 04:13:34 UTC  

Also suprised i havent seen any rebuttal articles to warrens wealth tax of someone pointing out the existing wealth tax which 1.9% last year, i.e. inflation

2019-05-17 04:19:25 UTC  

Anyhow the lp makes no sense to me, they say they believe in defense, but the language around it is structured likd they believe in retaliation but no prevention

2019-05-17 04:20:17 UTC  

Just as they say that dangerous immigrants should be stopped from entry, but they believe in open borders. How do you stop what hasn't been verified

2019-05-17 04:44:56 UTC  

@Putz
*"Im not clear how libetarian (as a party) believes in national defense..."*
¿When'd that happen? Just 2 years ago they were talking about disbanding 4 branches entirely and scaling back the CG to the Life Saving and Lighthouse Services only.

2019-05-17 04:56:39 UTC  

Libertarians believe that war is justified only in defense. 

We believe in maintaining a military that can defend us well if we are attacked

https://www.lp.org/issues/foreign-policy/

2019-05-17 05:38:00 UTC  

No, they don't beleive it's justified, period.

2019-05-17 08:34:31 UTC  

They won't admit that's what they actually believe, but it's probably pretty close.

2019-05-17 08:37:54 UTC  

I'm not really one to go around telling others what they "believe", all you have to do is ask one to see what that person thinks.

2019-05-17 13:46:13 UTC  

I believe in driving fast and eating ass. 😎 And if a man can't do that are you really free??

2019-05-17 14:17:58 UTC  

@Legalize
*"(E)ven if they're being attacked? They just sit and die?"*
... **NO.** Libertarians do believe in the right to self-defense. I never said otherwise. They just don't believe wars are justifiable.

2019-05-17 15:02:41 UTC  

Wars of defense are self defense

2019-05-17 15:38:38 UTC  

@Beemann
Tell that to libertarians... You know, ¿the one who just 2 years ago they were talking about disbanding 4 branches entirely and scaling back the CG to the Life Saving and Lighthouse Services only?

2019-05-17 15:41:29 UTC  

Libertarian is an umbrella term, so you're going to get shifts in dominant thought process. What you have to ask is whether they did that because they don't want the fed to have a standing army or because they don't want any army at all.

2019-05-17 15:42:20 UTC  

Talk libertarian to me @Beemann I'm creeeaaammiinnnggg

2019-05-17 15:46:29 UTC  

Everyone I've dealt with wanted *NO* war... *"At all."* (These were mostly Gary JOHNSON supporters.)
A few did *"generously"* (not sure what they meant by that) "allow" to have militry services contracted out to PMC's- Meaning no more VA. (Ya, so the VA is a rancid pile of shit, I uh, kinds get that...)

2019-05-17 15:46:58 UTC  

I think generally people want no war at all

2019-05-17 15:47:15 UTC  

It's usually a fail state

2019-05-17 15:49:01 UTC  

My policy is *no war* whilst we back of our troops to the Homeland and the second someone comes for us TOTAL war. Blow it to kingdom come and take it. Ya wanna give ppl jerbs? How about rebuilding an entire country bebe. We'll be an unstoppable Force of laborers and civil engineers

2019-05-17 15:49:40 UTC  

@TheCompanyMan let's talk about time-preference bb

2019-05-17 15:52:17 UTC  

Talk dirty to meeeee

2019-05-17 15:52:51 UTC  

Tbh I think Trump is somewhat immune to the time preference problem. His plans are either entirely knee jerk or super long term

2019-05-17 15:53:08 UTC  

But maybe I'm missing a few key factors in the pattern