@Deleted User is pointing out a real problem with the NAP mindset--the opposition doesn't reciprocate.

Also, the legal definition of conspiracy is different from the dictionary definition and doesn't require secrecy.

@C1PHER I would consider gun confiscation, for instance, a legitimate cause for political violence.

Right, but advocating for confiscation and enacting it are separate issues. I gathered that Alloy thinks the "far right" needs to be punched because they advocate for the bad things

Yes, agreed.

I challenge any of these people to come up with a reasonable, strict definition of far right

because it doesnt exist :^)

The NAP's other flaw seems to be that always being on the defensive is never really a winning strategy.

Yes, I was going to make the same point.

Much like conservatism in general.

by that metric, much of the US' military involvement has been a "losing strategy" though

the two World Wars in particular

The US fought offensively in WWII

the US engaged in WW2 after being attacked

Well, they abstained until attacked. Then they went all-in

Yes, and then we counter-invaded Germany

yes, which was a member of the coalition that attacked the US

There's an argument to be had.

Anyway I'm not thinking only of violence when I criticize conservatism or reactionary thought.

sure, but the NAP isn't really part of a conservative thought process, beyond the "conservation" of constitutional values (which arent even a universal value on the "right")

I really wish the U.S. and Western European governments fought the Soviets and Japanese together instead of what happened :(

And rooted out (((them))) in all of our nations

the NAP also doesnt discount defense of others, which was also a driving force behind US foreign involvement (even if the motivation for said defense was less than pure)

Uprooting them in every major city

What I'm really criticizing is the reactionary mindset of resisting attacks but not constantly pushing for advancement of one's own goals. This is a major asymmetry in Left vs Right tactics.

oh sure

but that also depends on your goals

I think that might be a larger issue

Leftists are fucking tireless and they have huge swathes of professional agitators going around stirring up problems to complain about constantly.

Right wingers seem to just shut up and go back to work whenever they win a tiny battle.

well and now it looks like not all of the agitators are necessarily theirs

the claim has been made that some of the recent vidya freakouts have been started by anons for fun

Vidya freakouts?

I don't know what we are talking about.

Ion Fury and CTR reboot

Ion Fury had the Ogay bottle, a "fagbag" texture outside of the map, CTR had a resetera thread in which someone claimed that one of the characters had a darker colour scheme called watermelon

both had big resetera/twatter freakouts

I wouldnt be surprised if there were non vidya freakouts with a similar, insincere origin

So shitposting that just fuels the Leftist propaganda machine? How is that productive?

What goal does it achieve?

chaos, amusement

we're talking about some random fuck on the 'net

at best you could make the "4d chess" argument that this falls into the "ban fathers day" and "free bleeding" ops