Message from @uncephalized
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The US fought offensively in WWII
the US engaged in WW2 after being attacked
Well, they abstained until attacked. Then they went all-in
Yes, and then we counter-invaded Germany
yes, which was a member of the coalition that attacked the US
There's an argument to be had.
Anyway I'm not thinking only of violence when I criticize conservatism or reactionary thought.
sure, but the NAP isn't really part of a conservative thought process, beyond the "conservation" of constitutional values (which arent even a universal value on the "right")
I really wish the U.S. and Western European governments fought the Soviets and Japanese together instead of what happened :(
And rooted out (((them))) in all of our nations
the NAP also doesnt discount defense of others, which was also a driving force behind US foreign involvement (even if the motivation for said defense was less than pure)
Uprooting them in every major city
What I'm really criticizing is the reactionary mindset of resisting attacks but not constantly pushing for advancement of one's own goals. This is a major asymmetry in Left vs Right tactics.
oh sure
but that also depends on your goals
I think that might be a larger issue
Leftists are fucking tireless and they have huge swathes of professional agitators going around stirring up problems to complain about constantly.
Right wingers seem to just shut up and go back to work whenever they win a tiny battle.
well and now it looks like not all of the agitators are necessarily theirs
the claim has been made that some of the recent vidya freakouts have been started by anons for fun
I don't know what we are talking about.
Ion Fury and CTR reboot
Ion Fury had the Ogay bottle, a "fagbag" texture outside of the map, CTR had a resetera thread in which someone claimed that one of the characters had a darker colour scheme called watermelon
both had big resetera/twatter freakouts
I wouldnt be surprised if there were non vidya freakouts with a similar, insincere origin
So shitposting that just fuels the Leftist propaganda machine? How is that productive?
What goal does it achieve?
chaos, amusement
we're talking about some random fuck on the 'net
at best you could make the "4d chess" argument that this falls into the "ban fathers day" and "free bleeding" ops
but it was probably just to shitstir in this instance
Yeah I don't think kekistan is helping anything.
I am not pro-chaos.
oh it was never going to be anything but chaos
there's a level of inherent contrarianism and mischief making there that I think people overlook when it happens to work out for them
Well it's never going to be anything but chaos if 'we' can't even coalesce around some sort of positive vision, sure.
sure, but that's not going to happen from "4chan"
You are the one that brought up chans and ops
right, because it's probable that some % of this isnt the usual crowd
but third party shit-stirrers