Message from @uncephalized

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2019-08-22 13:38:33 UTC  

The US fought offensively in WWII

2019-08-22 13:38:43 UTC  

the US engaged in WW2 after being attacked

2019-08-22 13:39:02 UTC  

Well, they abstained until attacked. Then they went all-in

2019-08-22 13:39:03 UTC  

Yes, and then we counter-invaded Germany

2019-08-22 13:39:21 UTC  

yes, which was a member of the coalition that attacked the US

2019-08-22 13:40:33 UTC  

There's an argument to be had.

2019-08-22 13:41:05 UTC  

Anyway I'm not thinking only of violence when I criticize conservatism or reactionary thought.

2019-08-22 13:41:59 UTC  

sure, but the NAP isn't really part of a conservative thought process, beyond the "conservation" of constitutional values (which arent even a universal value on the "right")

2019-08-22 13:42:26 UTC  

I really wish the U.S. and Western European governments fought the Soviets and Japanese together instead of what happened :(

2019-08-22 13:43:11 UTC  

And rooted out (((them))) in all of our nations

2019-08-22 13:43:19 UTC  

the NAP also doesnt discount defense of others, which was also a driving force behind US foreign involvement (even if the motivation for said defense was less than pure)

2019-08-22 13:43:19 UTC  

Uprooting them in every major city

2019-08-22 13:43:52 UTC  

What I'm really criticizing is the reactionary mindset of resisting attacks but not constantly pushing for advancement of one's own goals. This is a major asymmetry in Left vs Right tactics.

2019-08-22 13:44:00 UTC  

oh sure

2019-08-22 13:44:12 UTC  

but that also depends on your goals

2019-08-22 13:44:18 UTC  

I think that might be a larger issue

2019-08-22 13:45:12 UTC  

Leftists are fucking tireless and they have huge swathes of professional agitators going around stirring up problems to complain about constantly.

2019-08-22 13:45:34 UTC  

Right wingers seem to just shut up and go back to work whenever they win a tiny battle.

2019-08-22 13:45:38 UTC  

well and now it looks like not all of the agitators are necessarily theirs

2019-08-22 13:45:59 UTC  

the claim has been made that some of the recent vidya freakouts have been started by anons for fun

2019-08-22 13:46:26 UTC  

Vidya freakouts?

2019-08-22 13:46:36 UTC  

I don't know what we are talking about.

2019-08-22 13:46:37 UTC  

Ion Fury and CTR reboot

2019-08-22 13:47:31 UTC  

Ion Fury had the Ogay bottle, a "fagbag" texture outside of the map, CTR had a resetera thread in which someone claimed that one of the characters had a darker colour scheme called watermelon

2019-08-22 13:47:43 UTC  

both had big resetera/twatter freakouts

2019-08-22 13:47:58 UTC  

I wouldnt be surprised if there were non vidya freakouts with a similar, insincere origin

2019-08-22 13:48:32 UTC  

So shitposting that just fuels the Leftist propaganda machine? How is that productive?

2019-08-22 13:48:41 UTC  

What goal does it achieve?

2019-08-22 13:48:55 UTC  

chaos, amusement

2019-08-22 13:49:08 UTC  

we're talking about some random fuck on the 'net

2019-08-22 13:49:33 UTC  

at best you could make the "4d chess" argument that this falls into the "ban fathers day" and "free bleeding" ops

2019-08-22 13:49:59 UTC  

but it was probably just to shitstir in this instance

2019-08-22 13:50:05 UTC  

Yeah I don't think kekistan is helping anything.

2019-08-22 13:50:20 UTC  

I am not pro-chaos.

2019-08-22 13:50:43 UTC  

oh it was never going to be anything but chaos

2019-08-22 13:51:13 UTC  

there's a level of inherent contrarianism and mischief making there that I think people overlook when it happens to work out for them

2019-08-22 13:51:59 UTC  

Well it's never going to be anything but chaos if 'we' can't even coalesce around some sort of positive vision, sure.

2019-08-22 13:52:16 UTC  

sure, but that's not going to happen from "4chan"

2019-08-22 13:52:35 UTC  

You are the one that brought up chans and ops

2019-08-22 13:52:53 UTC  

right, because it's probable that some % of this isnt the usual crowd

2019-08-22 13:52:58 UTC  

but third party shit-stirrers