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2019-09-05 00:16:29 UTC  

long term, evolution doesn't move backwards

2019-09-05 00:16:46 UTC  

city states were superceded by the state

2019-09-05 00:16:54 UTC  

it doesn't move the other way

2019-09-05 00:17:11 UTC  

conflict between the family and the community

2019-09-05 00:17:15 UTC  

and all that

2019-09-05 00:17:27 UTC  

@uncephalized because you haven't...😉 Sorry. Been busy with the back to school schedule driving around and whatnot.

2019-09-05 00:17:35 UTC  

I don't know that that is true. It's not moving backward if it's part of a cycle.

2019-09-05 00:18:08 UTC  

Empires collapse and that leaves room for seeds of new states in their wake.

2019-09-05 00:18:14 UTC  

yes

2019-09-05 00:18:21 UTC  

something new

2019-09-05 00:18:25 UTC  

not the old

2019-09-05 00:18:52 UTC  

old structures are replaced with new structures

2019-09-05 00:21:52 UTC  

pattern mapping is all done in the aftermath, though

2019-09-05 00:21:53 UTC  

And THEN structures become shackles.

2019-09-05 00:22:13 UTC  

And THEN it all falls down....again.

2019-09-05 00:22:22 UTC  

we see a pattern and then try to figure out what caused it

2019-09-05 00:22:27 UTC  

Humpty Dumpty.
Kinda

2019-09-05 00:23:19 UTC  

if we think the events are caused by actions, then the cycle is caused by what is happening

2019-09-05 00:23:49 UTC  

scratch that

2019-09-05 00:23:52 UTC  

I mispoke

2019-09-05 00:24:10 UTC  

no wait

2019-09-05 00:24:13 UTC  

that was right

2019-09-05 00:24:16 UTC  

unscratch it

2019-09-05 00:24:56 UTC  

if we think the actions are caused by what is happening, then the cycle is caused by actions

2019-09-05 00:25:34 UTC  

it's a matter of, do people do things because of what is happening

2019-09-05 00:25:45 UTC  

or do things happen because of what people are doing

2019-09-05 00:26:31 UTC  

And much like Austin Powers we get lost , cross-eyed, and forget what we were doing.

2019-09-05 00:26:43 UTC  

😩

2019-09-05 00:26:55 UTC  

I think the reality is caused by actions

2019-09-05 00:27:20 UTC  

the actions are taken in accordance with reality

2019-09-05 00:27:30 UTC  

but is the actions that cause change

2019-09-05 00:27:47 UTC  

there are unlimited actions that can be taken

2019-09-05 00:27:55 UTC  

but there is only one reality

2019-09-05 00:28:37 UTC  

the reality, the situation, is the function

2019-09-05 00:28:49 UTC  

the action is the variable

2019-09-05 00:29:09 UTC  

the reality only changes because of the action

2019-09-05 00:29:32 UTC  

the reality, the function, only imposes limits on the possible outcomes

2019-09-05 00:30:34 UTC  

so the reality, the function, doesn't determine the outcome

2019-09-05 00:30:40 UTC  

the actions do

2019-09-05 00:30:54 UTC  

so we are not trapped within the cycle

2019-09-05 00:31:17 UTC  

the cycle, the function, has widened with every iteration