@Deleted User "lefty cities operate like city states"

Which I'd be fine with if they let the Right do the same thing. I actually like the city-state model.

@uncephalized closer to anarchy the better old chap 👌🏽

Anarchism is just another form of utopianism imo.

🙌 and praise be

😉

But we are way too far in the other direction so we have a ways to go before it would start causing problems.

And THEN the real fun begins! *He exclaimed in boyish war idiation*

*Marches soliderly* 💂🥁

Feel like I haven't seen you around much @TheCompanyMan

long term, evolution doesn't move backwards

city states were superceded by the state

it doesn't move the other way

conflict between the family and the community

and all that

@uncephalized because you haven't...😉 Sorry. Been busy with the back to school schedule driving around and whatnot.

I don't know that that is true. It's not moving backward if it's part of a cycle.

Empires collapse and that leaves room for seeds of new states in their wake.

yes

something new

not the old

old structures are replaced with new structures

pattern mapping is all done in the aftermath, though

And THEN structures become shackles.

And THEN it all falls down....again.

we see a pattern and then try to figure out what caused it

Humpty Dumpty.
Kinda

if we think the events are caused by actions, then the cycle is caused by what is happening

scratch that

I mispoke

no wait

that was right

unscratch it

if we think the actions are caused by what is happening, then the cycle is caused by actions

it's a matter of, do people do things because of what is happening

or do things happen because of what people are doing

And much like Austin Powers we get lost , cross-eyed, and forget what we were doing.

😩

I think the reality is caused by actions

the actions are taken in accordance with reality

but is the actions that cause change

there are unlimited actions that can be taken