Message from @devpav
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I've been trying to dismantle the Heinlein/SST requirement of serving your country and having right to serve being a central guarantee. I can't really find any reason to ditch it
I think everyone should serve at some capacity imo
I don't think it should be forced but the tradeoff is no vote
Maybe not serve, but atleast go through basic training
Reserves
As far as the socially liberal/conservative thing goes, I tend to look at what's worked and what doesn't and go from there. I think it should be up to communities though
Well like I said before I'd want any public schooling to include education on firearms and first aid
I tried real hard to figure out the most succinct way of explaining my political views to someone. So the combo of paleoconservative and libertarian seems to work
As per 2A being a necessary component of civics
We just need to get back at a society of the mindset, what can we do for the country instead of the other way around, like JFK said famously before he got yeeted
I dont think that saves you from the current mindset though
There's a Wikipedia article for it an everything
AOC thinks she's doing good things for her country
AOC needs to be thrown out of a helicopter
I prefer to think of it in terms of "Am I both comfortable with myself and/or my opponent having this power?"
I like the idea of conscription tbh, seems to be working really well for Switzerland atleast
Not a fan of "you were born here so we can vote for you to go die for us"
But we already have that
The draft?
Beemann, Heinlein has the most consistent vision of civic nationalism I've ever heard. Except maybe for Islam.
Yes, already having it doesn't make it good
Agreed, dev
For starters, service is more than military
As a followup, I dont think you can give the state the ability to force people into service without making severe structural sacrifices that will lead to more abuse down the line
The US continues to be my favourite example of both the good and bad of its own system, and the stated goals of that system
I just think everyone should be trained on how to defend their country. With military training also comes how to safely handle weapons etc etc.
But I of course recognize that there are authoritarian elements of implementing such a system
I would only go so far as a basic understanding of firearms and training in their use, again as part of civics education
Im not dismissing that.
Everything beyond that is up to the citizen. Part of liberty is trusting people to look out for their own interests, and allowing (in a legal sense) them to make bad decisions within the confines of fundamental law
Switzerland is also militantly neutral, so there's less chance of dying on behalf of Afghanistan when your time comes to enlist. I have serious reservations about mandatory service combined with the way the US utilizes its military around the world
Honestly, Im also really fucking sick of anti-american estrogen damaged soyboys who gets so triggered by the word obese that they have to take a 15 min timeout in their safe space
That's true as well I suppose.
Oh sure, but that's because we've gone too far in one direction
@C1PHER you make a fair point
Like, there was backlash because the culture wasn't considered open enough, which can be an issue wrt overall improvement
But now we've clearly overcompensated
Instead of the idea that people should be able to make mistakes, and should have social consequences for being shitty, the implication is that shitty decision should be supported
We've also gone from what should be a goal of redemption and reintegration to social exile
Greetings all. I was told by a friend that there is a person here that collects and uses fountain pens. I myself collect and use mechanical pencils. It was suggested that I come here, introduce myself and then fight Fountain Pen Man to the death.
Not sure what word I was typing out that autocorrect turned into compensated
Maybe complimented