Message from @Gunner Fox

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2019-10-03 23:22:14 UTC  

Church of Sweden is trying to make God gender neutral and change all the pronouns in their bibles

2019-10-03 23:22:31 UTC  

Church of sweden stopped caring about God ages ago

2019-10-03 23:22:34 UTC  

imo

2019-10-03 23:22:51 UTC  

(I say this being more than half swede)

2019-10-03 23:22:57 UTC  

They did. Its just gone rapidly worse in terms of them actually becoming political

2019-10-03 23:23:00 UTC  

The catholics have a point in that there should be more organization/structure with the church, but I think they are entirely too rigid with some things and I think they have the _wrong idea_ with some other things regarding their role.

Protestants counter the rigidity of the catholic church by establishing their own communities. This works in a number of ways can be good an bad. Sometimes the substitute the rigid and unforgiving catholic method with their own rigid an unforgiving method. Protestant churches are a little more free to develop in to cult-like communities which can range from benign to dangerous. Protestants also have these bizarre arguments with eachother over a lot of minutiae which I just don't understand why so much of it is _so important_ that you felt compelled to fracture and start your own church elsewhere.

2019-10-03 23:23:20 UTC  

@Gunner Fox well said

2019-10-03 23:23:56 UTC  

However there's a lot of division even in the roman catholic church over minutiae also which isn't widely talked about and I think that may be because there's an orthodoxy for disagreements in the catholic church.

2019-10-03 23:24:05 UTC  

@A. Spader cheers

2019-10-03 23:24:17 UTC  

@Gunner Fox Well the Catholic-EO split was over something trivial imho

2019-10-03 23:24:33 UTC  

It was literally an iota of difference, if I remember right

2019-10-03 23:24:40 UTC  

I wouldn't call power trivial

2019-10-03 23:24:47 UTC  

We should all join the Pentecostal Church and learn their secret angel language

2019-10-03 23:25:11 UTC  

my read on the RC-EO split was that it was far more about who controlled the mechanics of the church than a theological disagreement

2019-10-03 23:25:26 UTC  

@Homegrownsumo I don't think I know enough about our demographics to even take a guess

2019-10-03 23:25:43 UTC  

We should become Seventh Day Adventists and get deep into conspiracy theories

2019-10-03 23:26:00 UTC  

I know absolutely nothing about adventists

2019-10-03 23:26:06 UTC  

7th Day Adventism is super neat, but appears to be a bit scripturally contradictory from what I can tell

2019-10-03 23:26:13 UTC  

@C1PHER could be something cool to find out

2019-10-03 23:27:31 UTC  

Also I will probably raise my kids secular, so as to avoid being totally arbitrary, and then support their potential decision to join a faith. This is assuming my wife doesn't have any strong opinions one way or the other

2019-10-03 23:27:55 UTC  

Precisely. I've learned a lot more about catholicism since my mother converted to catholicism, so it's been kind of interesting. But uhh. well.. there's other things that have pushed me further away from catholicism, and I dont' think it's a incidental that my mother and I are no longer speaking.

2019-10-03 23:28:04 UTC  

oof

2019-10-03 23:28:10 UTC  

@Gunner Fox sorry to hear that

2019-10-03 23:28:20 UTC  

That's shitty

2019-10-03 23:28:22 UTC  

Imagine still having Obama stickers on your car in 2019

2019-10-03 23:28:39 UTC  

@pussydestroyer not as bad as McCain stickers

2019-10-03 23:28:46 UTC  

Oof

2019-10-03 23:28:49 UTC  

what would you do if your kids covert to Islam @Beemann

2019-10-03 23:28:59 UTC  

Touche, well played Spader.

2019-10-03 23:29:02 UTC  

I legit debated totalling my car to hit the truck with those in front of me

2019-10-03 23:29:04 UTC  

@A. Spader McCain was... Bless. But fucking Obama😂

2019-10-03 23:29:10 UTC  

Steer em away from the crazies

2019-10-03 23:29:46 UTC  

I dunno how old would my hypothetical child be when (s)he converted to islam?

2019-10-03 23:30:01 UTC  

wat

2019-10-03 23:30:21 UTC  

I put a poll in <#266407776178143233> if anyone's interested

2019-10-03 23:30:34 UTC  

just voted

2019-10-03 23:30:44 UTC  

Also voted

2019-10-03 23:31:04 UTC  

Because if they were in advanced adulthood and converted I would try to talk them out of it to a point before I'd just have to wash my hands of the responsibility. If they were young adults, or adolescent and converted to islam I would feel that I had completely failed them as a father.

2019-10-03 23:31:14 UTC  

agreed

2019-10-03 23:31:34 UTC  

I find it really interesting how there’s a growing number of white westerners, particularly women, converting to Islam.

2019-10-03 23:31:49 UTC  

Dat patriarchy