Message from @CCRed95

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2019-10-25 01:44:13 UTC  

yang is saying these people who have invested their life savings into trucks and are contracted by companies to move product from A to B are going to lose everything because of self driving vehicles

2019-10-25 01:45:31 UTC  

so you have to ask youself, are these companies all of a sudden going to invest into a fleet of self driving vehicles, which is the main cost, instead of contracting the work out, to people who may own the vehicles who may be able to ride dormant the the majority of the ride and kick into gear when they hit major metropolis centers?

2019-10-25 01:45:58 UTC  

hes portraying it as a doomsday situation bc there are many more truck drivers than rail, ship or bus

2019-10-25 01:46:00 UTC  

That is a valid concern and truck drivers is his little pet issue just because its the #1 job in certain areas, but largely across ALL sectors, tech, robotics, AI, smart manufacturing, these things are my entire career and i love doing them, but we are causing a GIANT problem

2019-10-25 01:46:24 UTC  

he said in his speech

2019-10-25 01:46:42 UTC  

they are not like... ON THE BRINK of creating totally autonomous trucks in the next 4 years

2019-10-25 01:46:50 UTC  

they cannot drive if there is anything covering the lines such as snow... but somehow someone will wirelessly be abel to transmit into the vehicle and take control

2019-10-25 01:46:54 UTC  

i highly doube it

2019-10-25 01:47:00 UTC  

but in 10? yeah.

2019-10-25 01:47:07 UTC  

and my point is

2019-10-25 01:47:16 UTC  

if they cant do it with trains on fixed rails

2019-10-25 01:47:44 UTC  

it will be a lonnnnggg time until the safety admin's of this country will allow a xton truck drive w/e human intervention down the highway

2019-10-25 01:47:52 UTC  

bc no system is proof of going down

2019-10-25 01:48:01 UTC  

what do you mean "if they cant do it with trains", they do, trains pretty much run themselves and have for like 2 decades

2019-10-25 01:48:19 UTC  

and look at the statistics of autopilot on Tesla

2019-10-25 01:48:29 UTC  

if that ssytem went down and then thousands of 18 whellers all of a sudden were out of control they would make a train wreck look like a dropped egg

2019-10-25 01:48:43 UTC  

but do they still have a conductor?

2019-10-25 01:48:53 UTC  

hes talking about no human in the cockpit

2019-10-25 01:48:57 UTC  

but remote

2019-10-25 01:49:11 UTC  

that was his key note points in his talk last night

2019-10-25 01:49:13 UTC  

Yes correct, that is going to be the legal and safety related hangup

2019-10-25 01:49:25 UTC  

and thats all my point was

2019-10-25 01:49:43 UTC  

getting that passed regaurdless of how safe anything is will be a major legislative challenge

2019-10-25 01:49:48 UTC  

its going to take many many years of proof in testing and a fail safe system before they leave the cockpit and shotgun seat empty

2019-10-25 01:50:00 UTC  

but they will do it in the next decade or something

2019-10-25 01:50:10 UTC  

but the way the trucking business works is, most companies do not have the time capital or interest in investing in a fleet of trucks.

2019-10-25 01:50:31 UTC  

so the people who own them privately, automation will only make their business more profitable

2019-10-25 01:50:35 UTC  

No no but the trucking companies are not the ones who would fund or develop that

2019-10-25 01:50:40 UTC  

people who work for a trucking company may suffer

2019-10-25 01:51:12 UTC  

Not to interrupt here, but the fact that most trucking companies have trucks which are at least ~25 years old with God knows how many flips of the odometer

2019-10-25 01:51:23 UTC  

You would have some giant tech subsidiary dev shop doing research builds on that and end up selling the solution to many trucking companies

2019-10-25 01:51:44 UTC  

but the reality is jobs that do not require the operation of vehicles that can kill people at a moments notice are much less likely to be 100% taken over than other professions that AI can do in an office w/o the safety facotr

2019-10-25 01:51:51 UTC  

Might take a while to switch to fully autopilot trucks, especially if their prices are more or less the same as a brand new truck

2019-10-25 01:52:08 UTC  

yes

2019-10-25 01:52:47 UTC  

they could take the loss and carry it over.. maybe they could do another sudo "cash for clunkers" failure policy but i do not feel business's would fall for it like the gen public would

2019-10-25 01:52:49 UTC  

Yes, im not sure of the viability of retrofitting a truck or some classification of trucks/common models to be converted over to self driving would be

2019-10-25 01:53:02 UTC  

then it comes down to the insurance

2019-10-25 01:53:07 UTC  

@nadrud we kill people with less technology

2019-10-25 01:53:13 UTC  

to eliminate the human would be costly

2019-10-25 01:53:17 UTC  

The insurance angle is what I'm most interested in

2019-10-25 01:53:26 UTC  

they could potentially eliminate the hours...