even when I'm in end-user mode I find it painful to use. And since that's Microsoft's flagship product, it doesn't exactly warm me up to the rest of Microsoft since anything you might not know about them might be just as bad

Its bloated as fuck agreed, I fucking HATE this app store idea, i HATE UWP, i think desktop devs have been pathetic with their non emphasis on UI/UX

We support open source, see, here's the source code for ms-dos 2

Lol cmon, almost everything for dev is open source

not Windows 10 of course, which is a pipe dream

My main OS is Debian, which takes ca 30-45 seconds from kernel launch/boot to the window server starting up. Not lightspeed but it's respectable

what is Debian

Linux distro

actually the basis for Ubuntu, but without Ubuntu's cruft

by contrast, on the same hardware, Windows 10 takes about 5 minutes before the desktop is actually usable. Now I appreciate that there are several hundred daemons that need to be launched and running in the background, but that's also true of most Linux desktop distributions. Why does Windows take so long?

Can i run that on a mega dev machine and have it fluently support 5 or 6 4K screens

mine loads in maybe 20 seconds, boot with win10 on my machine has always been good

That's actually a good question. Yes, you can on Windows 10. But I think the proprietary display and GPU drivers for Linux are good enough to achieve the same results

but you're right that there is a lot more dev attention toward hardware compatibility with Windows since that's the dominant operating system in the market

I have an array of 10 drives, maybe ill take one out and try installing that

I am unhappy with microsoft 10's forced updates and data policy

Now, limiting yourself to open source drivers? Probably not. Nvidia's proprietary drivers have been good for me, but nouveau (the open-source alternative) isn't nearly as good

I used Mate under ubuntu, loved it but couldn't run DX9 stuff with Wine so I had to duel boot and somehow I just always seem to wind up in Winblows

I play some older games that use DX9

Can i install Visual Studio 2019 on that

I know theres a Mac version

https://appdb.winehq.org/

VS2019 might have an entry in the Wine AppDB

then again, you might have issues compiling C# code. I don't know if there are toolchains to compile to PE format that work in Wine

although there probably should be

Unfortunately not

but 2017 is supported

isn't VSCode a fork of Visual Studio?

no no

VSCode isnt an IDE really

its more of a light text editor

that has IDE features tacked in

Whats the latest, I think they were up to .net core 3 on linux

last I checked

.net core 2.26 is the latest that is all supported by the stuff i need

But .net core 3 is stable and out

I've only heard of VSCode. Never used it or explored it much further

my IDE is vim 😎

VSCode is really nice but can't hold a candle to the VS IDE

(or Atom when I'm lazy)

VS Code right, Visual Studio 2019 left