Message from @It's Stephen Miller Time

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2019-11-16 00:02:37 UTC  

not Windows 10 of course, which is a pipe dream

2019-11-16 00:03:21 UTC  

My main OS is Debian, which takes ca 30-45 seconds from kernel launch/boot to the window server starting up. Not lightspeed but it's respectable

2019-11-16 00:03:40 UTC  

what is Debian

2019-11-16 00:03:43 UTC  

Linux distro

2019-11-16 00:03:50 UTC  

actually the basis for Ubuntu, but without Ubuntu's cruft

2019-11-16 00:04:36 UTC  

by contrast, on the same hardware, Windows 10 takes about 5 minutes before the desktop is actually usable. Now I appreciate that there are several hundred daemons that need to be launched and running in the background, but that's also true of most Linux desktop distributions. Why does Windows take so long?

2019-11-16 00:04:39 UTC  

Can i run that on a mega dev machine and have it fluently support 5 or 6 4K screens

2019-11-16 00:05:17 UTC  

mine loads in maybe 20 seconds, boot with win10 on my machine has always been good

2019-11-16 00:05:30 UTC  

That's actually a good question. Yes, you can on Windows 10. But I think the proprietary display and GPU drivers for Linux are good enough to achieve the same results

2019-11-16 00:06:00 UTC  

but you're right that there is a lot more dev attention toward hardware compatibility with Windows since that's the dominant operating system in the market

2019-11-16 00:06:18 UTC  

I have an array of 10 drives, maybe ill take one out and try installing that

2019-11-16 00:06:34 UTC  

I am unhappy with microsoft 10's forced updates and data policy

2019-11-16 00:06:46 UTC  

Now, limiting yourself to open source drivers? Probably not. Nvidia's proprietary drivers have been good for me, but nouveau (the open-source alternative) isn't nearly as good

2019-11-16 00:06:50 UTC  

I used Mate under ubuntu, loved it but couldn't run DX9 stuff with Wine so I had to duel boot and somehow I just always seem to wind up in Winblows

2019-11-16 00:07:21 UTC  

I play some older games that use DX9

2019-11-16 00:07:27 UTC  

Can i install Visual Studio 2019 on that

2019-11-16 00:07:39 UTC  

I know theres a Mac version

2019-11-16 00:07:54 UTC  

VS2019 might have an entry in the Wine AppDB

2019-11-16 00:08:58 UTC  

then again, you might have issues compiling C# code. I don't know if there are toolchains to compile to PE format that work in Wine

2019-11-16 00:09:01 UTC  

although there probably should be

2019-11-16 00:09:05 UTC  

Unfortunately not

2019-11-16 00:09:11 UTC  

but 2017 is supported

2019-11-16 00:09:18 UTC  

isn't VSCode a fork of Visual Studio?

2019-11-16 00:09:23 UTC  

no no

2019-11-16 00:09:35 UTC  

VSCode isnt an IDE really

2019-11-16 00:09:43 UTC  

its more of a light text editor

2019-11-16 00:09:51 UTC  

that has IDE features tacked in

2019-11-16 00:09:52 UTC  

Whats the latest, I think they were up to .net core 3 on linux

2019-11-16 00:10:13 UTC  

last I checked

2019-11-16 00:10:37 UTC  

.net core 2.26 is the latest that is all supported by the stuff i need

2019-11-16 00:10:51 UTC  

But .net core 3 is stable and out

2019-11-16 00:11:01 UTC  

I've only heard of VSCode. Never used it or explored it much further

2019-11-16 00:11:12 UTC  

my IDE is vim 😎

2019-11-16 00:11:21 UTC  

VSCode is really nice but can't hold a candle to the VS IDE

2019-11-16 00:11:23 UTC  

(or Atom when I'm lazy)

2019-11-16 00:12:44 UTC  

VS Code right, Visual Studio 2019 left

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/228313705669066752/645053607963525120/unknown.png

2019-11-16 00:12:47 UTC  

I use VSCode to edit my js stuff

2019-11-16 00:13:07 UTC  

or... vscode middle left lol

2019-11-16 00:14:33 UTC  

Visual Studio 2019 is like... 30 GB and VS code is like 200MB lol

2019-11-16 00:15:29 UTC  

I havnt tried the 2019 one