> hur dur only my rights matter
t. Lolbergs

as is a great number of other things we have made illegal already

At least, that was the original intent. Obviously the government has grown exponentially to the point where it intrudes even in my ability to do what I want that doesn't harm others

What I'm saying is, that's the ideal via our founding documents. Not how it is implemented today.

ummmmm

have you read what those same founders did in the first and second congresses, and what the states did?

*founding documents*

not founders

so the people who wrote the documents changed their minds completely about government the second after they adopted the constitution?

Lol. I love this idea that Madison and Adams would have been okay with PornHub existing...

It's baffling.

didnt you know? the Founding Fathers were full blown fedora tipping atheists

"the founders would be okay with all my favorite moral degeneracies"

It doesn't matter what they would be ok with. They lined out a government that allows it. The outline of which is supposed to still be our standard for law today.

@UnrelatedComa
When you're right, you're right.

t. person who has never read what the founders wrote

@ScootDood it literally does not

the constitution was in place for less than 10 years before *federal* obscenity laws

Lol, you're welcome to that opinion man, but the documents are right there to read if you want 👌

the right to speech was not the right to obsenity, is literally what the founders who wrote *the right to speech* legislated

Never said it was speech. But keep putting words in my mouth lol

> It doesn't matter what they would be ok with.
>what the people who wrote the law meant doesn't matter
🤣
> They lined out a government that allows it.
Lol. No. If they had, they would not have immediately passed obscenity laws.
> The outline of which is supposed to still be our standard for law today.
But the actual standard is literally the opposite of what you're claiming.

makes your argument convincing

also implied I've never read our founding documents lol

you may have read the declaration, or the federalist papers, or even the constitution. Doesn't mean you know what the founders meant

@Unironic Ohio Supremecist Where in our founding documents does it say the standard is that you cannot do something if it is morally objectionable but doesn't harm anyone else?

personally I think looking at what the founders said and thought about the documents they wrote is better than what I, or 5 unelected judges thought 170 years later

Where does it say the opposite?

Again, doesn't matter what the founders thought. What matters is what the documents say

What a brainlet question.

But the part where legislative power is given to the Congress is your answer.

Also what Legalize said.

I feel like I'm living in Groundhog Day right now.

@Legalize Exactly. A state ban on pornography would be one thing. But a Federal ban would be out of their given powers. Not that our government even cares about that anymore lol

@ScootDood
So if the standard is what you falsely claim, why even have a legislature?

@ScootDood so states can violate your rights but the feds cannot? what kind of logic is that?

if porn is a right, as you have said, than the states have no more right to violate it than the feds do

Also, pornography is interstate.

Clearly the purview of the Feds.