Message from @actual_communist_boi
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Democrats in Congress represent the poor more than the rich while Republicans do the reverse: <https://www.nowpublishers.com/article/Details/QJPS-16077> <https://sci-hub.se/10.1561/100.00016077> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418850379518705675/456898615336632320/unknown.png
Democrats in Congress represent the poor; Republicans represent the rich: <http://columbia.edu/~jrl2124/partypurse.pdf> <https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/party-or-the-purse-unequal-representation-in-the-us-senate/286BFEAA039374759DE14D782A0BB8DD> <https://sci-hub.se/10.1017/S0003055419000315> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418850379518705675/456904734708858890/unknown.png
Democrats in Congress represent the middle class more than the rich while Republicans do the reverse: <http://matthewg.org/Gilens-Parties4.pdf> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418850379518705675/456900147348242452/unknown.png
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someone asked me to debate!
RAWR!!!
*sneazes*
I don't think Pogan is claiming there's a categorical difference, it's just that he wants an argument for the claim "it can be gradual"
he literally is
he claimed there's a distinction between 'little treats' and 'seizure of MOP'
The gradual case is ontologically simpler. Someone would have to demonstrate the mechanism by which the conditional is created
The proletariat can have a little means of production as a treat
just a bit, as a treat
A crumb of MOP
pogan is winning
pog
lol
PoganChamp
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love you reese
lol
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opting to patronize them smh @actual_communist_boi
I’m not looking at that
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Don't bully Marcdoof, he's nice
It seems like Pogan is saying that socialism is a binary state, and commieboi is saying the change that precedes the change is gradual.
Like, they're not even disagreeing.
Graph A could be "% of MOP collectivized" and graph b could be "total collectivization of MOP"
sure!
and then he'd be arguing for Graph B!