Message from @foodmaker

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2020-01-06 04:50:26 UTC  

lmao

2020-01-06 04:50:28 UTC  

and if youre workign in a paradigm of beleifs and views youre going to want to explain the difference between a robot created by a tornado and taking an action

2020-01-06 04:50:37 UTC  

what tf are u on about

2020-01-06 04:50:38 UTC  

and a robot created by a person that can act against the intentions of the person

2020-01-06 04:50:44 UTC  

why.

2020-01-06 04:50:44 UTC  

its an example

2020-01-06 04:50:55 UTC  

because its parsimonious

2020-01-06 04:51:09 UTC  

it's just intuition games

2020-01-06 04:51:16 UTC  

none of this proves intentional realism

2020-01-06 04:51:16 UTC  

👏 Tornado 👏 lives 👏 matter 👏

2020-01-06 04:51:35 UTC  

idk what you mean by prove intentional realism

2020-01-06 04:51:46 UTC  

its just the fallout of working in a paradigm of beliefs and knowledge

2020-01-06 04:51:53 UTC  

word salad

2020-01-06 04:51:55 UTC  

if youre playing the skeptic game then obviously you cant know

2020-01-06 04:52:07 UTC  

i'm a foundationalist

2020-01-06 04:52:12 UTC  

lol

2020-01-06 04:52:20 UTC  

are your foundations material?

2020-01-06 04:52:21 UTC  

I'm just saying what you're on about doesnt work

2020-01-06 04:52:29 UTC  

No of course not

2020-01-06 04:52:32 UTC  

what part doesnt work with which other part

2020-01-06 04:52:35 UTC  

I'm not a cringe materialist

2020-01-06 04:52:49 UTC  

the counter claim against dualism is going to be like substance monism of some kind

2020-01-06 04:52:53 UTC  

I'm a platonist

2020-01-06 04:52:58 UTC  

I deny dualism of the mind

2020-01-06 04:52:59 UTC  

and that view is untennable since it entails a contradiction

2020-01-06 04:53:14 UTC  

what do you think the mind is?

2020-01-06 04:53:16 UTC  

why is that the counter claim to mind body dualism

2020-01-06 04:53:25 UTC  

I think the mind is purely physical

2020-01-06 04:53:35 UTC  

*the usual counter claim

2020-01-06 04:53:57 UTC  

But there is some sui generis interraction between abstracta and the physical mind

2020-01-06 04:54:00 UTC  

why do you think the mind is physical?

2020-01-06 04:54:09 UTC  

what do you mean by physical?

2020-01-06 04:54:38 UTC  

Physical meaning it fits under some naturalistic definition. Obeys some set of laws and such laws are causal

2020-01-06 04:55:03 UTC  

What on earth is the good reason for dualism

2020-01-06 04:55:18 UTC  

if thats what you mean by physicalist then sure the mind is physical

2020-01-06 04:55:33 UTC  

Then what do you mean by physical

2020-01-06 04:55:37 UTC  

and how are you a dualist

2020-01-06 04:55:59 UTC  

because i think theres a dual perspective

2020-01-06 04:56:12 UTC  

sounds like nonsense

2020-01-06 04:56:12 UTC  

there are two kinds of properties. natural properties and non natural properties

2020-01-06 04:56:25 UTC  

if the mind is nonnatural, I take that to mean non physical