Message from @foodmaker

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2020-01-06 04:52:35 UTC  

I'm not a cringe materialist

2020-01-06 04:52:49 UTC  

the counter claim against dualism is going to be like substance monism of some kind

2020-01-06 04:52:53 UTC  

I'm a platonist

2020-01-06 04:52:58 UTC  

I deny dualism of the mind

2020-01-06 04:52:59 UTC  

and that view is untennable since it entails a contradiction

2020-01-06 04:53:14 UTC  

what do you think the mind is?

2020-01-06 04:53:16 UTC  

why is that the counter claim to mind body dualism

2020-01-06 04:53:25 UTC  

I think the mind is purely physical

2020-01-06 04:53:35 UTC  

*the usual counter claim

2020-01-06 04:53:57 UTC  

But there is some sui generis interraction between abstracta and the physical mind

2020-01-06 04:54:00 UTC  

why do you think the mind is physical?

2020-01-06 04:54:09 UTC  

what do you mean by physical?

2020-01-06 04:54:38 UTC  

Physical meaning it fits under some naturalistic definition. Obeys some set of laws and such laws are causal

2020-01-06 04:55:03 UTC  

What on earth is the good reason for dualism

2020-01-06 04:55:18 UTC  

if thats what you mean by physicalist then sure the mind is physical

2020-01-06 04:55:33 UTC  

Then what do you mean by physical

2020-01-06 04:55:37 UTC  

and how are you a dualist

2020-01-06 04:55:59 UTC  

because i think theres a dual perspective

2020-01-06 04:56:12 UTC  

sounds like nonsense

2020-01-06 04:56:12 UTC  

there are two kinds of properties. natural properties and non natural properties

2020-01-06 04:56:25 UTC  

if the mind is nonnatural, I take that to mean non physical

2020-01-06 04:56:33 UTC  

you seem to be contradicting yourself

2020-01-06 04:56:38 UTC  

yeah but for you physical just means lawlike

2020-01-06 04:56:48 UTC  

what do you mean by physical

2020-01-06 04:57:03 UTC  

I think you're just salvaging dualism with wordgames

2020-01-06 04:57:16 UTC  

i mean whats the argument that we have the same language game

2020-01-06 04:57:22 UTC  

maybe in my language game physicalism is dualism

2020-01-06 04:57:25 UTC  

Stop trolling

2020-01-06 04:57:31 UTC  

Answer

2020-01-06 04:57:37 UTC  

what do you mean by physical

2020-01-06 04:58:11 UTC  

Non-natural properties 😞

2020-01-06 04:58:30 UTC  

Nonnaturalism I can tolerate to some extent

2020-01-06 05:00:14 UTC  

Hello?

2020-01-06 05:00:17 UTC  
2020-01-06 05:01:13 UTC  

that which coheres to what people in the field of physics say about reality

2020-01-06 05:02:03 UTC  

I can hear you

2020-01-06 05:02:22 UTC  

I'm obviously not a physicalist about everything

2020-01-06 05:02:24 UTC  

but sure

2020-01-06 05:02:27 UTC  

the mind is physical

2020-01-06 05:02:35 UTC  

and i'm not sure what that means @Deleted User

2020-01-06 05:02:48 UTC  

are you vic?