Message from @beepcash

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2020-01-26 01:34:19 UTC  

In order for an anarchist society to work out, the vast majority of the people in that society have to be anarchists, sure, I never claimed that it would be easy to achieve

2020-01-26 01:34:58 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/649061211849097217/670803838965383168/20200126_013452.jpg

2020-01-26 01:34:59 UTC  

I don't think everyone has to agree on everything 100% but they have to agree on some basic anarchistic principles at least

2020-01-26 01:35:00 UTC  

even if true anarchy would exist. The ancaps would ruin you =p

2020-01-26 01:35:15 UTC  

idk why its so hard to go back and see what you pinged ppl with but w/e

2020-01-26 01:35:30 UTC  

Ancaps would be re-educated

2020-01-26 01:35:39 UTC  

hahahha

2020-01-26 01:35:49 UTC  

conversion therapy

2020-01-26 01:35:50 UTC  

There's a little @ symbol at the top right of discord that lets you scroll through past pings

2020-01-26 01:36:02 UTC  

i was being sarcastic

2020-01-26 01:37:11 UTC  

@beepcash maybe accidental idk

2020-01-26 01:37:11 UTC  

"I see." Said the blind man to his deaf wife

2020-01-26 01:37:51 UTC  

i hope so

2020-01-26 01:38:03 UTC  

@LustrousMandrill for curiosity, If you were in a full communist state. You would fight against said state to achieve anarchy?

2020-01-26 01:38:59 UTC  

No such thing as a "full communist state", but if it were a socialist state, yes, I'd still seek the abolition of the state

2020-01-26 01:39:56 UTC  

A socialist state would be a huge step in the right direction though

2020-01-26 01:41:19 UTC  

ya, the problem here is that for you communism is anarcho-communism. That's our only disagreement from the start

2020-01-26 01:42:06 UTC  

if you think communism can have/be a state then you probly dont really know what communism is

2020-01-26 01:42:37 UTC  

or you read to many fantasy books

2020-01-26 01:43:01 UTC  

🤦

2020-01-26 01:43:20 UTC  

this is such a boring topic

2020-01-26 01:43:21 UTC  

like I said above, there isn't any flavor of communism that existed that didn't rely on a big authoritarian state

2020-01-26 01:43:28 UTC  

i see it every day

2020-01-26 01:44:02 UTC  

ofc you would, it's what happens when your definition of a word is totally different than the one everyone uses

2020-01-26 01:44:16 UTC  

"hur communism had a state in the past!"

"thats not communism! dialectics n stuff"

2020-01-26 01:44:27 UTC  

im not even a communist

2020-01-26 01:44:31 UTC  

im just sick of it ngl

2020-01-26 01:45:23 UTC  

communism is impossible by itself, but funny enough, you picked an even more impossible one on top of it 😂

2020-01-26 01:45:39 UTC  

wht

2020-01-26 01:46:12 UTC  

like I asked above, how would you have redistribution of wealth?

2020-01-26 01:46:35 UTC  

i mean what was that statement even meant to mean

2020-01-26 01:48:12 UTC  

@⥌鬼気⥍ It would be a very natural process. I mean, it would be kind of difficult for someone to hoard wealth without a state to protect their "private property rights"

2020-01-26 01:49:05 UTC  

the reverse, someone with wealth would be the only one capable of defending himself

2020-01-26 01:49:31 UTC  

wealth is power, without any limits as there is no state

2020-01-26 01:50:28 UTC  

it only takes a group with guns and wealth for your system to fall and not be classless anymore

2020-01-26 01:55:06 UTC  

But the mechanism by which people are able to accumulate so much wealth in the first place would no longer be in place either

2020-01-26 01:55:29 UTC  

it's not "so much". A couple of guns is enough

2020-01-26 01:56:07 UTC  

look at Africa in general. Corruption and forcing people into labor is the basic

2020-01-26 01:56:54 UTC  

without a state there is no protection. At least the ancaps assume that they have to defend themselves

2020-01-26 01:56:54 UTC  

Yes, I'm sure a person with a couple of guns would be able to somehow seize power in an anarchist society where everyone else is also armed and there's a culture of dismantling hierarchy

2020-01-26 01:57:18 UTC  

The community would be the protection