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i was being sarcastic
"I see." Said the blind man to his deaf wife
i hope so
@LustrousMandrill for curiosity, If you were in a full communist state. You would fight against said state to achieve anarchy?
No such thing as a "full communist state", but if it were a socialist state, yes, I'd still seek the abolition of the state
A socialist state would be a huge step in the right direction though
ya, the problem here is that for you communism is anarcho-communism. That's our only disagreement from the start
if you think communism can have/be a state then you probly dont really know what communism is
or you read to many fantasy books
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this is such a boring topic
like I said above, there isn't any flavor of communism that existed that didn't rely on a big authoritarian state
i see it every day
ofc you would, it's what happens when your definition of a word is totally different than the one everyone uses
"hur communism had a state in the past!"
"thats not communism! dialectics n stuff"
im not even a communist
communism is impossible by itself, but funny enough, you picked an even more impossible one on top of it 😂
wht
like I asked above, how would you have redistribution of wealth?
i mean what was that statement even meant to mean
@⥌鬼気⥍ It would be a very natural process. I mean, it would be kind of difficult for someone to hoard wealth without a state to protect their "private property rights"
the reverse, someone with wealth would be the only one capable of defending himself
wealth is power, without any limits as there is no state
it only takes a group with guns and wealth for your system to fall and not be classless anymore
But the mechanism by which people are able to accumulate so much wealth in the first place would no longer be in place either
it's not "so much". A couple of guns is enough
look at Africa in general. Corruption and forcing people into labor is the basic
without a state there is no protection. At least the ancaps assume that they have to defend themselves
Yes, I'm sure a person with a couple of guns would be able to somehow seize power in an anarchist society where everyone else is also armed and there's a culture of dismantling hierarchy
The community would be the protection
they would simple create a fascist state. The only issue is that multiple groups would try the same thing at the same time
you are assuming everyone would magically become equal and that no since individual would be capable of overpowering a group
a couple of guns and disarming the population is a small village would be enough to produce huge amounts of wealth in a few years
I mean, ancaps are delusional, but at least they know that anarchy would turn everywhere into the wildwest
anyway, I got a date in a bit. We can continue this later
Sure. Just so you know, I don't have any illusions about everyone "magically becoming equal", but I'm not sure how you think one person would manage to disarm a village and monopolize the weapons in their area in an anarchist society