Message from @windmill man
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I see another man of culture
Ah Mr Aniston I see you don't have the appreciated member tag anymore
Mr Aniston?
I like to be formal sometimes
who are you referring to though?
Jen
oh alt cap
Yes or as I like to call him "moon man"
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@Deleted User Why would free will not be a thing
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its implies free of causality or externalities
even relatively
its still a hard position to defend
hard position to defend free will or go against it ?
to defend free will
Correct me if I'm wrong but if you have the choice between a green colored t-shirt or a yellow colored t-shirt and you choose the green one because you like it and green is your favourite color, but you go back and purchase the yellow one because you don't want a entire closet full of green colored t-shirts, you make the choice yourself don't you ??
choice doesnt equate free will
you made that choice cause of externalities
you base choice on reason
What's defined as free will then? @Deleted User
@windmill man freedom of humans to make choices that are not determined by prior causes or by divine intervention
free will taken to its logical conclusion basically contradicts causality or is contingent on some form of belief in the supernatural
But aren't all choices based on free will then
It's hard for me to understand your position
no
choices would be dependent on previous casual affects
Could you give a example?
okay
@windmill man do you have the choice to move your right hand?
I do
Normally it's a unconscious process but the moment I think to myself I want to move my hand I can
@windmill man if i were to cut it off. Afterwards would you have the choice to move your right hand?
not anymore, my brain would still send the signals but there would no longer be a right hand
@windmill man thats because your choice is restricted by the state of reality and the casual effects that exist in it
so you wouldnt have that choice
now can you control your brain?
The entire world is restricted by nature laws isnt it
I can control my brain, because my brain is still there, and I can reach it without breaking the laws of physics