Message from @windmill man
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you made that choice cause of externalities
yea
you base choice on reason
What's defined as free will then? @Deleted User
@windmill man freedom of humans to make choices that are not determined by prior causes or by divine intervention
free will taken to its logical conclusion basically contradicts causality or is contingent on some form of belief in the supernatural
But aren't all choices based on free will then
It's hard for me to understand your position
no
choices would be dependent on previous casual affects
Could you give a example?
okay
@windmill man do you have the choice to move your right hand?
I do
Normally it's a unconscious process but the moment I think to myself I want to move my hand I can
@windmill man if i were to cut it off. Afterwards would you have the choice to move your right hand?
not anymore, my brain would still send the signals but there would no longer be a right hand
@windmill man thats because your choice is restricted by the state of reality and the casual effects that exist in it
so you wouldnt have that choice
now can you control your brain?
I can control my brain, because my brain is still there, and I can reach it without breaking the laws of physics
whats the mechanism by which you control your brain?
the thing is there is none
at least no evidence for one
Am I not my brain?
your brain is whats making the choice and its operates on casual effects
in other words
your "choice" is simply an illusion of it
but are you not your brain?
yeah but that simply means "you" arent making a choice
youre simply acting
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RUH ROH RAGGY
If you are your brain, you make your decisions
Because "your brain is whats making the choice and its operates on casual effects"
am i wrong ?
windmill man?
more like
mindwill wan
i further refined my words