Message from @Tato
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I have to agree with Laure here. Poland wasn't "at fault" for Germany attacking. You act like Germany starting an offensive war would be a bad thing though.
Doesn't really matter about the reason imo, Hitler had every reason to attack Poland over his racial doctrine. Uniting the German people was more than enough on it's own.
What isn't justified is British response. Britain and France didn't have to start WWII.
They could've just walked away
And practiced the liberal democratic mantra of "mind your own business" but liberals hold no conviction.
Bound by treaty iirc
Which they had ignored
3 times before Poland
With Austria, Sudatenland, and Memel.
Hell Britain even fucking signed the document to give them Sudatenland
"Bound by treaty" after they had wiped their ass with it.
>Britain and France didn't have to start WWII
They had to, the treaty between UK, France and Poland was kind of different from the ones that established Versailles Order
You dont have to do anything even while bound by a treaty as they had made clear with Versailles.
And tbh, they realised that appeasement wasn't working at all
They did it too fucking late, but at least they did
Britain then decides to fight a world war over Poland and then doesn't even save it, puts it and several other countries under communist rule util the late 80's and 90's.
Also, you kind of forget, that Poland wasn't the only country he attacked before he invaded France
Danes, Norway
He would still attack USSR
Benelux
Yeah I know the reasoning why they did it. It doesn't justify Britain throwing Europe under the bus over Poland.
Britain had flimsy treaties that it picked when it was convenient to uphold.
Tbh neither France nor Britain did much, they are even blamed for betrayal and breach of treatie, because they didn't really attacked Germany after it started the war (although they kind of had right to do so according to the treaties)
All Britain was out for was the fucking international finance system, they weren't even out for themselves because they fucking gave up the empire immediately afterwards after going bankrupt buying illegally produced US military "surplus".
I mean, we shall consider the whole "French offensive" a fucking joke and pretend it wasn't a thing
Yeah
Fuck the allies
The absolute worst most garbage faction in WWII.
Entirely preventable war.
For obvious reasons I can't really agree with that
Thanks Britain.
Yeah, preventing the war at the cost of wiping out most of central and eastern Europe
Well everyone's sort of equally bad in the eyes of the Polish I suspect. Britain offered aid that it never sent and left you under the bus to get fucked by Stalin. And naturally you'd oppose any foreign invader, so that's both the USSR and Germany.
Sounds like a great plan
Better than the world in addition.
Mitigating the damage.
>better than the world
Japan would try to conquer Asia anyway and they would probably started the war with US anyway
The only part of the world that the Germany's war had any impact was Europe, and here it doesn't really matter if France and Britatin would join the war (I mean immediately, Hitler would attack them anyway at some point)
Japan probably would have but without the Brits egging them on, the US would never have prepared for war.
Or sent armaments en-masse to everybody.
Hell, maybe the US continues trade with Japan because of the depression and capitalizes on the war by selling to everybody indiscriminately.