Message from @m. scott veach

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2019-03-03 01:52:00 UTC  

Not being funny..did he?

2019-03-03 01:52:43 UTC  

oh, i thought you were making a 'could they or couldn't they see the stars" joke... no,i don't think so... i think his exposures were all set for earht and inside the shuttle

2019-03-03 01:53:19 UTC  

but tbh there are so many CDs of pictuers and i've not gone through them with a finetooth comb or oanything... @wilman757

2019-03-03 01:54:14 UTC  

@m. scott veach ok...just asking..not being an a**

2019-03-03 01:54:42 UTC  

Sorry

2019-03-03 01:54:44 UTC  

it's okay... trust me, i'm used to people coming at me like "your dad is a fucking liar, space is fake, etc" so I'm used to it

2019-03-03 01:54:45 UTC  

Thought the same

2019-03-03 01:55:07 UTC  

I know that FE belief dictates that conclusion. I don't take it personally.

2019-03-03 01:55:15 UTC  

Lots of people that deny the existence of space and stars here lol

2019-03-03 01:55:32 UTC  

Yep. Same with my server. Even globers I know are doubtful sometimes of NASA.

2019-03-03 01:56:42 UTC  

NASA has put out a lot of bullshit

2019-03-03 01:57:05 UTC  

@m. scott veach @Smoothie Mane I'm not pro or con...just seems that I would picture earth as well as stars..?

2019-03-03 01:58:02 UTC  

His dad was in low earth orbit so I don't think that shot would've been so easy

2019-03-03 01:58:05 UTC  

The main BS is the fake alien agenda @Smoothie Mane

2019-03-03 01:58:59 UTC  

@wilman757 the issue is dynamic range of photography.. .it can't expose but very bright and very dim things at once.. so you have to pick one or the other basically

2019-03-03 02:00:11 UTC  

You gotta consider the possibility that some of what theyre trying to "hide" they only want to seem like they are trying to hide it.

2019-03-03 02:01:12 UTC  

The old reverse psychology like tactic

2019-03-03 02:01:35 UTC  

I would have been interested to see what the pic looked like.ev en if it didn't come out...

2019-03-03 02:02:02 UTC  

i think there are certain heavy films that can expose both dim and bright faithfully, they are expensive but you no longer rely on the aperture decisions

2019-03-03 02:02:03 UTC  

@wilman757 i'll look through the CDs next time i have some free time...see if i can find one

2019-03-03 02:02:23 UTC  

@HyperBaroque yeah, i could believe that... especially in recent years.....

2019-03-03 02:02:39 UTC  
2019-03-03 02:02:43 UTC  

these are old things iirc from the late 60s

2019-03-03 02:03:05 UTC  

err. maybe late 70s. i seem to rememver they are post french new wave

2019-03-03 02:03:18 UTC  

maybe even 80s

2019-03-03 02:03:20 UTC  

@HyperBaroque like when my dad took thast pic it was a mechanical camera... analog... but these days a digital camera should be able to take 3 pics at once at different exposures all at once...

2019-03-03 02:03:37 UTC  

and then you can merge them basically

2019-03-03 02:03:56 UTC  

well, the film exists. i think it was sensitive material but a bulk of it

2019-03-03 02:05:09 UTC  

you know what the range was?

2019-03-03 02:05:13 UTC  

in terms of stops?

2019-03-03 02:06:19 UTC  

not sure. im not that into film production. i remember it just being thick.

2019-03-03 02:06:39 UTC  

@HyperBaroque check it out: Dynamic Range
Once the almighty reason to shoot with analog film over digital, dynamic range is no longer the huge debate it once was in the past. While the dynamic range of an Image is a complex process that takes into account the sensor used, the type of file compression, and other factors, digital is ultimately winning against analog film.

A release by Kodak showcased that most film has around 13 stops of dynamic range. Today’s modern digital cameras all average around 14 stops of dynamic range, with high-end units such as the Nikon D810 reaching almost 15 stops. Film continuous to deliver incredible dynamic range, but today’s digital technology can easy match it.

Independent testing of dynamic range on film cameras, such as the tests conducted by Roger N. Clark, showed that high-end digital cameras in 2005 began to show “huge dynamic range compared to [scans of] either print or slide film”. Films used in the testing included Kodak Gold 200 and Fujifilm FujiChrome Velvia.

2019-03-03 02:06:56 UTC  

so basically, yes, you're right.. modern film has a wide range

2019-03-03 02:07:17 UTC  

and maybe there was a special fancy film back in the 70s that could do it too

2019-03-03 02:08:00 UTC  

i remember it as heavy material, the process took some time so it wasn't good for motion video

2019-03-03 02:08:04 UTC  

and expensive

2019-03-03 02:08:52 UTC  

not the process, sorry, the exposure. i guess the development took a long time as well.

2019-03-03 02:09:48 UTC  
2019-03-03 02:09:57 UTC  

Thaaaank you