Whoa that sounds cool. I'll probably look into it, I've never heard any solution to that at all; even a bad one

In The Ambidextrous Universe, it is concluded that a certain isotope of cobalt can be used because it always emits electrons from one pole relative to its spin.

From this you can say "in", "out", "left", "right", "up", "down", etc. and from basic 3 dimensional descriptions build up the rest of a shared language.

*a certain isotope of cobalt always emits *more* electrons from one pole than the other, relative to spin

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I agree that it seems very improbable any E.T. would have [any] reason to come to this part of the galaxy. The only reason I can think of would be if they had been here before, or had discovered life here by accident, either originating here or having passed by looking for some kind of resource, or maybe having sent a probe through the area.

Yeah, that makes it seem more likely imo with them originating life here. I think I'll actually look into getting that book.

regarding like interaction the catch 22 though is like if aliens are sophisticated enough to actually get here be it different dimention or from.a few light years away, like they will be so far advanced past us other than a direct interest in our cukture and our ways they like dnt technically need to interact with us for very much if at all.

The book only touches on the talking with e.t. thought experiment cery briefly. Overall the book is about things like symmetry, chirality, handedness, convention, that sort of thing. It covers subjects from the micro to macroscopic, including galactic scale and universal scale, and in later editions I believe some subjects in quantum physics.

<:GWmythicalThonkCool:367331557100224522> well that still seems interesting, though

@darth_brando It may depend on the E.T. culture or even individual E.T. specimen. For instance, in some human cultures, we interact with some animals in an emotional way and treat them as having personalities. And some of us show more curiosity in this regard than others. There are people who ignore everything about, say, gorillas other than their fur and other exploitable taxidermy. And then there are the Jane Goodall types.

Meanwhile in other cultures, animals are just seen as brutal. They are nothing but food, or labor, or a nuisance.

@HyperBaroque well the problem with androgenous equivalance of identifiability with animals is we strictly only do this with domesticated animals.

so if ET comes over an tries that like well idk ya dnt wanna end up in the alien zoo like in twilight zone.

um

i mean like sure native americans had reverance for animals but like we dnt do that to nearly same degree today cept for our own pets

So ... are we supposed to project only certain facets of a certain subset of all our human cultures from only a narrow time interval on E.T.'s everywhere? Not sure what we gain by that.

what i mean is like humans dont equally identify with lesser animals at all unless they are the literal goodall conservationist types or the animal is their pet.

and that if ET does the bit of conferring equal identity the possibility exists that its part of a domestication tactic.

How does that reflect back on the probability of E.T. visiting this corner of the galaxy?

Oh I see. You are saying, no matter what, if they can make it here, then they either have no interest in us as a species or their interests are bad.

But, that doesn't clear up the probability of them interacting with us if they were here.

well not entirely if they come here to guinely learn bout us thats pretty benign n not too bad

but yea most other reasons we end up as servants or livestocl if they dnt jus exterminate us thinking we are pests

I think what's more likely is that aliens or entienties from other realities are interacting with our reality

well yea i mean even religion goes over that in some aspects and very often. like even in christian sense god created the universe, and heaven and hell are both defined openly as different planes/realms.

@darth_brando Do you ever think about that hermetic principle, "as above, so below," when talking about heaven and hell?

well

i mean, theres good reason too

how does suck a diverse human, come from nothing but thin air?

with such a complex body, so many bones, internal organs, your brain, very fine detail down to the atom

you cant just think it all came from thin air

if it was possible

then why isn't every other planet

like that

not really i gave up my baptist roots mostly because personally i just dont believe anything is inherently good or evil. i do believe in "higher power" and the spirit/soul but not god vs satan and heaven vs hell. @Enn

its not

heaven vs hell

But isn't God both sides of the coin?

god does not want to destroy the devil, its a way of wanting to worship

and showing you what will hapen

if you dont

it sound alot worse and harsh than it actually is

if you dont go into depth

@0P0J um yes it is. revelations is the day of judgement the day satan and his demon hordes walk the earth and fight the armies of god led by christ and the angel gabriel.