Message from @Juicy

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2019-07-16 03:40:16 UTC  

Yeah

2019-07-16 08:56:30 UTC  

those scorpion pouches are ugly af 🤢

2019-07-16 10:18:36 UTC  

*I kinda want to get a d3crm*

2019-07-16 10:18:47 UTC  

But I dont know what's holding me back

2019-07-16 10:21:22 UTC  

Anyone in here have experience with one?

2019-07-16 10:35:37 UTC  

It's gonna look mad tiny on you bro

2019-07-16 10:37:40 UTC  

Everything looks tiny when I wear it

2019-07-16 10:49:41 UTC  

Get smaller?

2019-07-16 13:41:52 UTC  

I've been watching threat identification drills, and they are all flawed in some way or another. What's your go to for teaching yourself quick assessment techniques before squeezing the bang switch?

2019-07-16 13:43:11 UTC  

See the bad guy

2019-07-16 13:43:13 UTC  

Shoot him

2019-07-16 13:44:06 UTC  

Use your eyes?

2019-07-16 13:45:00 UTC  

Things I think are critical.
1. The drill can maintain no redundancy, in other words, you need a buddy to create a scenario of which you don't know the details in order to practice quick and critical assessment. And he needs to change it up, nearly every time.
2. The "threat" doesn't always look obvious, so it needs a changing and realistic representation. If you are identifying by seeing a "gun", you could shoot your buddy if that's all you look for. There has to be more a more subtle variance to identifying threats in these drills.
3. The targets shouldn't be evenly spaced from your firing point, as this does not lend itself to practical situations. Real life is complex and the drills ought not to be so simple.

2019-07-16 13:47:00 UTC  

One of the better ones was a drill where there are several targets in a busy (lots of cover and obstacles) range setting, and there is a guide who walks the shooter with his eyes closed through the range, then calls contact in a certain direction. The shooter opened his eyes, identified the target while drawing and presenting his weapon, carried out his shots, then holstered and closed his eyes again. Rinse and repeat while walking through the environment.

2019-07-16 13:56:14 UTC  

One option is colored dots and calling specific colors

2019-07-16 13:57:35 UTC  

That's a good one

2019-07-16 13:57:56 UTC  

Lucas B uses one where chests and heads have spray painted white numbers, but that is too flat-range set to be practical

2019-07-16 13:58:00 UTC  

I like the variation of colors

2019-07-16 13:58:13 UTC  

maybe colors and numbers, with redundant numbers with color variance

2019-07-16 13:58:15 UTC  

good sheiza

2019-07-16 14:08:24 UTC  

The color dots are small enough to be hidden and if you get called a color that isn’t there your eyes and brain are going to have to work

2019-07-16 15:35:09 UTC  

If you want to actually test shit like that you need to do force on force. Poor mans UTM would be to grab an airsoft gun and some buddies.

2019-07-16 15:36:00 UTC  

Good idea, and I thought about that, but was hoping something similar could be emulated wit hlive fire

2019-07-16 15:36:01 UTC  

Without OC/Ts that know what they’re doing, you’re going to have a hard time getting the correct feedback though

2019-07-16 15:36:07 UTC  

No

2019-07-16 15:36:10 UTC  

Not really

2019-07-16 15:38:31 UTC  

Live fire? A bunch of rotating target stands, spray paint a gun on some of the cardboard outlines

2019-07-16 15:38:49 UTC  

That'a gonna be a pain in the dick to reset and configure every string though

2019-07-16 15:39:15 UTC  

That's why I think you need a buddy to rearrange it when you aren't looking, then run it again

2019-07-16 15:39:41 UTC  

Or some dirty harry setup

2019-07-16 15:40:23 UTC  
2019-07-16 15:42:38 UTC  

Or pay for one of those virtual training things with the huge screen lasertag

2019-07-16 16:19:16 UTC  

@TemplarActual are you a botkin lover?

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2019-07-16 16:21:59 UTC  

Everything is a datapoint. That said, I dig garand thumb a bit more

2019-07-16 17:00:02 UTC  

Tbh you might as well just play airsoft if you want to work on PID, but in my experience between airshit and paintball PID is piss easy, you never really have the stress required that is present in live-fire or sim training situations
Even then you should rarely be in a situation where your guys are looking aggressive towards you

2019-07-16 17:09:04 UTC  

PID is easy for airsoft just shoot anyone who looks or moves in your direction

2019-07-16 17:12:26 UTC  

More or less, which is why it notionally works as a training aide but realistically doesn’t mimic what you see in reel gunfighter scenarios

2019-07-16 17:35:46 UTC  

I’m not saying to play airsoft for training. I’m saying you could utilize airsoft guns to create your own force on force scenarios

2019-07-16 17:37:36 UTC  

Simmunitions are a poor replacement for live ammo, and airsoft is a poor replacement for simmunitions, but you can work within your constraints to get some worthwhile training value from it

2019-07-16 17:42:05 UTC  

sounds about right

2019-07-16 17:43:51 UTC  

Just gotta get more than my 2 buds out here and we could run scenarios