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couldn't you incorporate it into school education then
Yes.
that's 12 years
or however long you want
Not enough in this age.
This age person is not developed completely to work like that with abstractions.
If it is possible it should be done.
proof?
i thought abstract thinking develops around age 12 or so
I thought around zero percent of people been inventive at that age.
there are quite a few young inventors. in fact, that's when people start being inventive, although at that age they don't have the economic means to do anything with those ideas.
They have zero experience with inventions and stuff.
Zero experience, no brain developed.
Worst candidate to participate in elections.
that's when they start learning though, and are able to grasp those kind of concepts.
obviously i don't think 12 year olds should vote
but i don't think you have to be 30 years old or something to understand marxism either.
Most people do not grow up even.
proof?
Discord is a proof.
Most of people here.
^
like im pretty sure unless you're diseased
you will reach the formal-operational stage of cognitive development
Operational stage to do what? What is the operation?
The final stage is known as the formal operational stage (adolescence and into adulthood, roughly ages 11 to approximately 15–20): Intelligence is demonstrated through the logical use of symbols related to abstract concepts. This form of thought includes "assumptions that have no necessary relation to reality."[43] At this point, the person is capable of hypothetical and deductive reasoning. During this time, people develop the ability to think about abstract concepts.
Piaget stated that "hypothetico-deductive reasoning" becomes important during the formal operational stage. This type of thinking involves hypothetical "what-if" situations that are not always rooted in reality, i.e. counterfactual thinking. It is often required in science and mathematics.
Abstract thought emerges during the formal operational stage. Children tend to think very concretely and specifically in earlier stages, and begin to consider possible outcomes and consequences of actions.
Metacognition, the capacity for "thinking about thinking" that allows adolescents and adults to reason about their thought processes and monitor them.[44]
Problem-solving is demonstrated when children use trial-and-error to solve problems. The ability to systematically solve a problem in a logical and methodical way emerges.
While children in primary school years mostly used inductive reasoning, drawing general conclusions from personal experiences and specific facts, adolescents become capable of deductive reasoning, in which they draw specific conclusions from abstract concepts using logic. This capability results from their capacity to think hypothetically.[45]
I've asked your opinion not wiki
i mean my opinion is essentially that wiki snippet
What is it? I don't read junk.
I just hide it
i think my opinions on psychology align with the established doctrine
it's piaget's final stage of cognitive development
it's called the "formal-operational stage"
people who reach this stage think hypothetically, and use deductive reasoning, they can understand abstract concepts
like the ones required for marxism
"However, research has shown that not all persons in all cultures reach formal operations, and most people do not use formal operations in all aspects of their lives".[46]
it says here that development can not be reached based on cultural factors
which means we need to educate for people to reach this stage
maybe people raised under capitalism often don't reach it
but we can fix that